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>>66754
Yes. If something as widely spread as rap is 95% bad, I believe that it is worth pointing it out as such. I very strongly believe that, because the elements are so weak both alone and combined, the only things that most people enjoy rap for is feelings of solidarity and/or feelings of vicarious badassery.
But how long does it take for 3-4 messages (one of which is outright personal vanity) to stop being culturally valid? Months? Years? Decades? If the themes in rap are still so valid as to maintain their monopoly for decades, then has rap culture itself stagnated? These are the questions that your question brings up in my mind.
Shit. A thought just popped up: rap is, at its core, comparable to gay pride parades. Nobody likes it outside of the group doing it, and it serves no purpose other than to exclude the rest of society in order to feel like part of something bigger than ones self.
I don't and didn't set out to piss people off, the first comment was just a flippant nothing, but rap just bores me, man. A discussion about music can be interesting, however. So: obviously, my POV is given, but would yuwall be willing to tell me with concrete terminology what you like about rap? If it's the lyrics, what specifically is it about them? If it's something other than what I've mentioned, what/why? If it's the beats, why not listen to something with better, less looped, and more varied beats? If it's about temporal harmonies, why not listen to something that simultaneously does it with pitch?
>>66716
I did forget to mention that I hate all of what I've heard of noise "music". 100% Pure, undiluted hipster wank that grates painfully 9 times out of 10. Gyech. I don't think there's anything to discuss. It's not music, it conflicts with itself, it's ugly and doesn't even have the danceablity of the simplest [insert genre].
I do technically define rap as music, but only because I would also define a metronome as music. Music has to have intent to it and at least a set (but changeable) bpm.
Decided to double-check, and Merriam-Webster defines music almost identically to me. See: 1a
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/music
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