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No. 66726
> i find very american themes within it . . . it is quite uplifting and inspirational to me. Fair enough, I can't fault you for finding inspiration in something. I could even say the same about blues (extremely American and influential for ballza reason), but those have the music to back them up. Blues is often sad not because you're told sad things, but because the music shows you sadness rather than just tells you about it. Movie soundtracks often influence how you feel just as much as everything else going on, but rap just completely negates that whole aspect of music. >You haven't said what makes it inherently bad you've just said that it is. Again, fair enough. I think we all know what I mean, but I will clarify. The problem I have is that there is little to no variation in overall style of the genre AND its subgenres. I like AC/DC, but they have even said of themselves that they just make the same song over and over. They have the same problem as rap, but with rap it's an entire genre of music that does the same thing over and over as opposed to one band. You can pick any rap song at random and it will basically 100% of the time consist entirely of the following: 5-10 seconds of a very simple looped beat, sometimes with twice that but you still hear the same single beat over and over someone talking over the beat almost always about the same 2-4 or so topics of Ima gangsta/I'm rich/I fuck bitches/aintIcool, why is life so mean/discrimination/no really I'm a ballza guy/sucksBeinPoor And I'm not saying that the second bunch can be really ballza lyrical fodder, but when everyone does the same thing, it gets old. Someone angrily retorted about rock, and yes, there is even the expression "sex, drugs, rock and roll" to describe it, but there's also the music. The music varies in complexity from CCR to peak-era Metallica to the ludicrous on both ends. To continue with rock, just consider how wildly varying the different styles of rock are: heavy (death, metal, screamo), pop (strummy hippy shit, whipsery nancyboy shit, college hipster), prog (art, baroque, experimental), and so on. I would say that there are easily dozens of core styles of rock all with enormous difference between them, but rap doesn't have more than a couple maybe. And that's my real problem: a dude rapping to the beat wouldn't be so bad if that one style weren't the entire genre. >Zebra Katz and clipping Giving them a shot while I type this (3 apiece, limited time for it, etc.) and there was only one that broke out from what I'm talking about. Most had no real change to the beat, lyrics or style. I was terribly bored because they all (but one) stayed just a very simple musical monotone for 3-4 minutes with someone talking about the same old shit (see >>66584, >>66588). They were a short looped beat with a guy talking about "Ima fuck x up" or "sucks to be poor/in a bad neighborhood". If you're going to ignore the music, you might as well just call it poetry and read it in front of a crowd of berets. At least Story 2 had some emotional content (I said emotional content, not anger. Try again - Bruce Lee) indicated by the changing pace and time sig. I wouldn't listen to it again, it wasn't very enjoyable, but it was engaging, and that's a huge improvement. The musical aspect wasn't just a backdrop for some dude to brag/complain; it told the story as much as the lyrics. Still very simple, but it does demonstrate how even a simple change or two can grab attention and how to show with music rather than just tell with lyrics. I don't mean to single you out, and I'd be willing to check out other suggestions, but this was all pretty much more of the same. Clipping seems slightly less so. At the extreme opposite end of the spectrum I'm talking about is something like this (so complex that the changes are meaningless, pure wank): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwkcRTNMsWs&feature=youtu.be
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