>>15885

The FLQ did fight and kill for their country... they also did get categorized as a terrorist movement by the federal governement. You can,t openly say that you agree with what the FLQ did without someone calling the police on you or shit like that. You couldn't start a legitimate civil war against a "democratic" government in the western world in the 20th century and you sure as hell can't do it in the 21st. The october crisis is a fairly good example: as soon as there is a sliver of doubt regarding potential violence, the feds use the War Measures Act to send in all the troops they can legally justify.

>>15880
>French, can't fight for shit

The French Foreign Legion, Napoleon, the Marquis de Lafayette and the French Resistance would like to have a word with you.

>>15887

French Foreign Legion?

>>15888
The FFL might be composed of 70%-75% foreign soldiers, but the officers and command are all French. The French have had a bad rap since the WW 1 and WW 2, but they do have a pretty strong military. I wouldn't fuck with them unless I had an ace in my sleeve.

>>15886
Is that a famous picture of someone from that FLQ? Why did you bring them up? Did they call themselves "The Patriotic Citizens" or something? Because all I see is some jerk with a microphone which, in this context, implies that someone thinks too much of such people.

SAGE has been used.

>>15862

Which ones? Can't say I've heard of much revolver usage these days except as backup guns.

Law enforcement has moved away from revolvers because of the limitations, especially in ammo capacity. If the shit hits the fan, having 17 rounds is better than 6. Law enforcement also moved away from the larger calibers such as .44 to smaller calibers like 9mm. For one it reduces the chances of collateral damage if the round go through the target or if the officer misses and it goes through a couple of walls and takes out granny. I'm not saying that it still doesn't happen, just saying that it reduces the possibility. Also, officers are trying to promote themselves and get away from the "shoot to kill" and get more into the "shoot to stop the threat", even though they mean the same thing. Walking around with a Dirty Harry sized hand cannon kinda takes away from that image.

bullshit- l.a. used to have a stockpile of .45 thompson automatic machine guns for when the 'shit hits the fan'. and what the hell do you think the atf packs? rubberband guns and pellet rifles? LEO's pack more heat because the government says they can. revolvers are just shit anyways and the civilized world moved on over hundred years ago.

do yourself a favor and invest in a firearm you enjoy. you're not going to be in a shootout with a thug with a gun (he'll probably say FUCK the law anyways and be packing an automatic or sawed off shotgun).

As far as revolvers go, I'd like some trigger time with a Rhino.

Figure the recoil impulse would be a lot more like a semi-auto but perhaps with even less muzzle flip, given the position of the barrel.

Make sure to check the law regarding owning a self defense nuclear device in the area you live, the maximum yield can vary wildly from place to place. A neighbor of mine had his confiscated and also got like $300 fine just because it was a few kilotons over.

Man, I live in California where we're not allowed to have MIRVs with more than 3 warheads. Shit sucks bro.

Are you kidding? Here in Illinois we can't even carry fuel-air devices for protection. Its a police state over here.

>>15834
Nice. Personally, I open-carry a W54 in the SADM holster (pic is from my phone). I'd have gone for a 79 myself, but I tend to prefer dual-purpose rather than radiation-based, and W79s are hard to come by.

Me, I prefer an Ivy Mike. Partly because I'm only interested in area defense and think that air blasts are cheating and partly because it's a great ice breaker for guests.

Maintaining the cryogenicis costs a fortune, but I like to show off.

question... what do you plan on doing with it?

Skeet? Hunting? General range toy?

OP here,

Hunting, and range weapon.

SAGE has been used.

That's pretty awesome, I'm going to have to try that once the range nearby reopens.

SAGE has been used.
(Too much SAGE... cook it again)

so were you aiming through the lens/digital screen of the camera? WAS IT LIKE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME OF YOURSELF???

lol that's pretty cool though

This is actually kind of a neat idea, and holy shit there's activity on /w/.

>>15871
Actually yeah, that's exactly what I was doing... I am surprised I was able to make that shot.

The Howa 1500 is also worth looking into. Very affordable, very competent.

getting my R700 from the FFL dealer in the near future, problem is, SJ/bay area doesn't exactly have a whole lot of places to go hunting at without payin a whole buncha money. Havin lived in ohio and hawaii, I'm not really used to this. a little upsetting tbh.

>>15850
paying to go hunting? I'm confused. Are you referring to so-called 'canned hunts' where you pay to go with a group, or licenses, etc? The boars I'm going after are classified as a pest, and it's open season on em with no restrictions or license required. Hell, some counties even have a bounty on em.

As for the rem-700, I've seen many a forum debate on the two, and the consensus seems to be that calling one better is merely splitting hairs, and really it's all about personal preference.

also: http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/affordable3006.html something I read during previous research that holds the howa 1500 and savage 111 at about equal, this being prior to savage's accutrigger, which addresses their main concerns. Overall, my mind hasn't been changed but I do appreciate the input

>Remington Model-700

This. Remington 700s have stood the test of time for many reasons.

>>15853
Fuck yes they have man.

They kind of emulate real weapons, but airsoft flamethrowers are about as brutally efficient as it gets. If you've got the time and tools, you can build one yourself.
http://www.neospud.com/mark2/mark2.html

Plus, the PMR30 is stylish...

Kel-Tec has stated that a 40 grain .22 WMR round should reach a velocity of 1230 fps from the 4.3" barrel of their PMR-30 pistol. This works out to 134.40 ft/lbs of energy.

This is a significantly less than the FN Five-seveN USG (4.75" barrel), which can push a 40 grain bullet at 2009 fps. This works out to 358.57 ft/lbs! Nearly three times as powerful as the .22 WMR! 1

This does not mean that the .22 WMR is not a good cartridge. It simply means that the 5.7mm is optimized to be fired from a pistol, rather than the slower burning .22 WMR loads which are designed to be fired from a rifle.

>>15829
The thing is, 3 x 134 still isn't a lot. Your math is correct, it just doesn't mean much. Even if it's 3 times more powerful than .22 magnum, it's still not as much kinetic energy as the average 9mm. So OP, what do you really want?

>>15829

Sure. And if the AP ammo the 5.7 was designed to fire was available then it would be a different story, but as anon already pointed out if ft/lbs is your metric there's better choices than either of these calibers.

>>15831
Part of why proprietary ammo sucks. They could sell AP ammo to civilians just fine, but they decided to be politically correct about it.