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73214 No. 73214
http://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/a-civil-rights-leader-has-disguised-herself-as-black-for-yea#.biY3yP06J

Is it possible to be trans-african?
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>> No. 73314
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73314
Yo what up honkie ass motherhooligans, it's J-ROC IN DA HOUSE. When will yall niggas learn being black is about more than the color of yo skin homie. It's about the color of your mind, nigga. It's about rhymes. It's about poverty. It's about trailer parks. "Yeah." It's about weed. It's about white trash.

I see all the time black bitches be actin white, so when a white bitch be actin black, that's the same thing! Bitches is bitches, and pussy is pussy nigga.
>> No. 73317
>>73314
Only coherent thing you've said all longday.
>> No. 73366
>>73214
No I don't think it is possible. I think there is nothing wrong with enjoying the culture, or living in a lifestyle normally lived by blacks, but to claim you're of a race you are not, especially a white woman claiming to be black hellza undermines the historic struggles of black people. I think Ms.dolezal should be free to live a black life style if thats the lifestyle she enjoys and identifies with but she should have more pride in her own heritage and respect for black heritage.

I think Ms.Dolezal has some deep rooted issues she needs to work through as her own parents have come out and said shes basically a pathological liar. I'd imagine she has some real attention issues being the child of missionaries who adopted. I wouldn't be surprised if Ms.Dolezal feels from her own experience that black people get more attention and thus she assumed a black identity.
>> No. 73369
(My 2¢..)
I'm trying to imagine a scenario where a black person would get in trouble for saying they were white on an application...and I can't.
>> No. 73376
>>73369
Pale skinned blacks do it all the time to increase their odds of getting hired, it's considered socially acceptable.
>> No. 73380
I feel like she gives way to unfair comparisons to transgender people (like in that pic). if a person acts across there (forgive the lack of a better term) race roles its not a huge deal. liking r&b and having corn rows is nothing, a lot of white teenagers dress like rappers and listen to rap. if a boy dresses or acts like a girl its immediate ground for ridicule and evenn beatings in the eyes of many. also there is medicine for trans* that makes biological changes and emotional changes. gender is taken into account when people get you gifts and when they meet they expect that they know how you act. a lot of the assumptions of race are still based more on how the person dresses and their sex, or their gender and gender expression. in short, i hellza dont like that she exists
>> No. 73402
>>73380

But doesn't that strengthen the case for race bending? Compared to gender bending it doesn't seem all that radical, by the points you describe.
>> No. 73404
>>73402
>racebending
You remember that live-action Avatar: The Last Airbender movie? When that came out I had a roommate who was a hardcore fan of that show and was among those who got massively bootybothered when some of the characters in the movie were the wrong color. They used the word "racebending" for that.
>> No. 73410
>>73402
I'm saying bend race all you want. tan hellza dark and wear a malcom x shirt if you want but it makes me very angry she "identifies as black" or whatever. its going to raise discrimination to what is the most discriminated minority i can think of in the first world. people are gonna say "look how sill this white girl is, like trannys". being head of the NAACP and calling yourself black are just about the only two things a white person shouldnt do only because theyre white. ignore your parents because your embarrassed of your biological race is something no one should do
>> No. 73414
>>73410
>>the most discriminated minority i can think of in the first world

arabs have it worse. Everyone hates muslims and arabs.
>> No. 73418
I feel like this is as ballza a time as any to point out that not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs.
>> No. 73424
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73424
>>73414

Yes, but moslems don't get angry when you decide to "culturally appropriate" their way of life. In fact they would be happy to accept you.

Come to the think of it, actual Africans are almost always delighted to share their cultural practices, and have no problem with westerners deciding to share their dress or becoming members of the tribe.

Let's point out the elephant in the room. Black people in America are monopolizing the public perception of color. This despite their views conflicting with the majority of the world's colored population. This is in effect elitism, an indirect caste system. Black Americans immediately assume they are more educated, more mature, more intellectual than their Islander/Continental counterparts, yet this is often not the case. I once had the opportunity to contrast a Howard educated lawyer, with a Liberian emigre. The Liberian had no concept of digital technology, keeping meticulous written notes, in perfect calligraphy. His accent was a serious handicap, however. The Howard lawyer dominated the waiting area, and passed around his manifesto which appeared to have been typed by a fifth grader. The Howard guy got the job.
>> No. 73427
>>73424
>Black people in America are monopolizing the public perception of color.
I'd generalize this to all Americans. It's one of the countries where race still does a better job of dividing people than social class, and Americans seem to be the loudest voices doing obnoxious shit on (the English-language parts of) the Internet.
>> No. 73441
whatever man. why do people care about race so much?
>> No. 73443
>>73424
man, why do tribal girls always have saggy titties?
>> No. 73450
>Black Americans immediately assume they are more educated, more mature, more intellectual than their Islander/Continental counterparts

That's what happened with Liberia. African Americans moved in and built a caste system in which they were at the top and the natives were at the bottom.
>> No. 73464
>>73443
no bras
>> No. 73503
>73214
>no bras
Bras are acknowledged as being the biggest cause of tit-sag. The unnecessary support means the ligaments that are supposed to support the breast atrophy.
Saggy breasts are also caused by the breasts swinging around when the woman runs. And gravity. And age. And genetics.
>> No. 73517
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73517
>>73443
A more likely answer is that they've been used more aggressively for their "intended" purpose of feeding babies. There are multiple reasons why they wouldn't just go to the store and buy some formula.

Different societies' views on how relatively used/unused someone's titties are can change wildly. The European neoclassical answer was that it was a symbol of purity to have unused nipples because that supposedly meant that purpose wasn't running around making babies, which is why art with bare-breasted women was a thing. The power of the symbol was far greater than the reality that that particular meaning is bullshit which is easy to work around, as shown by the royal and noble females who could afford wet nurses for their children and not wreck their own nipples.
>> No. 73520
I like how the lady in OP's picture says that one day, it'll be seen as barbaric to have survey's about people's race, because it's just a simple backward social construct, but that we should let this person identify as any race they want. It's one or the other. It's either race is important, or it's not.

I think this lady is pretty enraging. She can do exactly what she did as an activist without altering her hair or putting on makeup everyday. Like, she just seems fake. I watched her interview on MSNBC, and she just seemed so.... I don't know how to quite explain it. I feel like the interviewer didn't ask tough enough questions, and she let a lot of bullshit slide. This lady obviously lied about a lot of her upbringing and tried to identify with a group that she had less in common that she wants. That's why she fabricated death threats, said she grew up in a teepee shooting animals with bows and arrows, because she wanted to have that black experience so bad, but she never got it.

This just goes how to show how privileged she is. Like, a kid growing up in Baltimore city didn't get a choice to grow up with a life free of disproportionate police attention, getting passed over for jobs, or other shit they have to deal with on a daily basis. They didn't get to decide. Not only did this lady choose to live this way, when no one gave her what she thought was the "black experience" she chose to make it up. She had all the benefits of living a life where she didn't have to deal with it, but she still faked it for... what? It's not like a white woman with no past of discrimination can't help reduce inequality in this country, but she had to lie. If that isn't absolutely insulting to the black community, then I don't know what is.

But maybe I'm caring too much. In a few weeks, I'll forget about this lady, and she'll keep doing what she's doing and will continue living her life and so will I. I don't foresee a bunch of people doing what she is doing and following in her example, except for maybe a few misguided teens. She'll be like that guy who put a bunch of tattoos on so he could be a tiger or something. So hellza, I shouldn't care.
>> No. 73522
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73522
Tiger dude btw
>> No. 73537
>>73520

Just because a standard exists doesn't mean it's a ballza thing. Should Jindal have been castrated by the Indian community for saying race as a concept is alien to himself? Is Barack Obama obligated to speak as a black person always, despite being as white as he is black?

To say that minorities cannot change is to miss the point entirely. One problem justifies another. You are both making the point that minorities cannot rise above racism, and yet take aim at those who try. You are racist, plain and simple.
>> No. 73540
>>73414
i dont know people bash trans people to me regularly. tv bashes them in almost every single mention. arabs get tax free business for the first ten years of being a citizen while trans people harassed daily. in a lot of states its legal to deny someone a job based solely on the fact they are trans or fire them for transitioning. it hellza doesnt matter though, we can all agree neither are too lucky
>> No. 73542
>>73540

Have you been to an airport while arab recently?
>> No. 73567
>>73542
get outta here you goddamn proctologist
>> No. 73581
>>73537

Everyone is a racist. Especially hipsters such as your self that always seem so eager to cast judgement on others. The fanatic is always hiding something.

Who gives a fuck if some dumb white bitch wants to pretend to be a negress? That's her business.

In the immortal words of Paul Moody: "Everybody wanna be a basketball american but don't nobody wanna be a basketball american."
>> No. 73596
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73596
there is an episode of aqua teen hunger force where master shake gets bitten by a radioactive black vampire and becomes black, so maybe
>> No. 73604
>>73596
You might have some sort of point if Master Shake wasn't, you know, a drink cup.
>> No. 73606
>>73604
The symbolism is all the more powerful precisely because he is a drink cup. It's not everyone who is forced to transcend their white Dixie heritage and learn to embrace blackness.
>> No. 73631
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73631
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33245094

Apparently there's a tradition where African presidents take the title 'doctor,' despite having no medical training. In general, one can tell how many years an African president has been in office in the same manner as one can tell the age of trees, simply count the number of addendums to his name.

For example: >His Excellency Sheikh Professor Alhaji Dr Yahya AJJ Jammeh Babili Mansa

Which begs the question. If Obama is an African president, then he must have a fake doctorate somewhere. Why hasn't Donald Trump taken the President to court for this?
>> No. 73635
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73635
>>73631
>no medical training

Oh yeah? Well, Yahya Jammeh discovered the cure to aids! http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17244005/ns/health-aids/t/gambias-president-claims-he-has-cure-aids/
>> No. 73647
  Couldn't resist.
>> No. 73649
>>73631
>>73635
There are other types of doctors besides medical doctors.
>> No. 73653
>>73649
Not even the people who work hard to get those degrees think they're a real doctor.

Besides, what would a Doctor of, say, Political Science even do?

"Political science" is a bullshit phrase anyway. Everyone knows that politics is a performing art.
>> No. 73655
>>73631
It "raises" the question, it doesn't "beg" the question. "Begging the question" is a specific type of fallacious argument where the premise is included in the argument itself, they are not synonyms.
>> No. 73656
>>73655
They're synonyms now whether they were supposed to be or not.

Face it: linguistic prescriptivism makes you look autistic. You lost and people aren't going to stop using words in a way you don't like just because you don't like it.
>> No. 73657
>>73656
Uh, lost what? I wasn't aware there was any kind of contest going on.
>> No. 73660
>>73657
Yes, you were.

"Ah ha! I know more about the history of the usage of this particular phrase than you do; therefore I have the bigger penis!"
>> No. 73661
>>73660
I'm pretty sure I didn't say any of those words, where are you getting that quote from?
>> No. 73662
>>73661
It's called a paraphrase.

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe >>73655 just represents a sincere desire to educate people, but that requires sincerity on a chan.
>> No. 73664
>>73662
Maybe you are wrong and maybe you are not, but while you are in such a state of not knowing, don't you think it's disingenuous to paraphrase someone's words without knowing the intent of them?
>> No. 73665
>>73664
That's as nonsensical as calling a scientist disingenuous for developing a hypothesis before testing it.
>> No. 73666
>>73665
What you've done would be more like a scientist formulating a hypothesis and then just assuming that it must be so and not even testing it.

But I hate this arguing through simile thing that seems to be so prevalent on imageboards nowadays, you fucking cockchomping queermo.
>> No. 73667
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73667
Also, if using words properly makes one autistic, then consider me the assest of the burg.
>> No. 73668
>>73666
Hating arguing through similes is like hating the scrollwork and engraving on a Victorian sofa. You still get to sit on it, so you look like the fucking cockchomping queermo for getting upset about one little detail.
>> No. 73669
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73669
>>73649

Well, you might consider the guy in question actually does claim a medical pedigree, in addition to single-handedly curing AIDS and Ebola.

No one is claiming that these presidents actually have doctorates in anything. Or at least, if they do have these qualifications, the BBC should be competent enough to have included these in the article. The article was about how African presidents, retroactively attained these designations after several years of presidency.

Which raises the obvious issue, if they did indeed attend classes on the subject, how much actual 'presiding' could they have truly accomplished? Either they are lying about their credentials, or they are behaving irresponsibly.

>>73655

That's the joke.
>> No. 73689
>>73669
>That's the joke.
Is it a joke when it's not funny, clever, doesn't follow the outlines of a joke, has no punchline, no wordplay whatsoever and only makes sense in the mind of whoever did the "joke"?
Spoiler: No, it is not.
>> No. 73693
>>73689
Sounds like most of the things I've seen white college girls laugh at.
>> No. 73699
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73699
>>73631
>Which begs the question. If Obama is an African president, then he must have a fake doctorate somewhere. Why hasn't Donald Trump taken the President to court for this?

>>73655
>It "raises" the question, it doesn't "beg" the question. "Begging the question" is a specific type of fallacious argument where the premise is included in the argument itself, they are not synonyms.

>Is it a joke when it's not funny, clever, doesn't follow the outlines of a joke, has no punchline, no wordplay whatsoever and only makes sense in the mind of whoever did the "joke"?


Yes, what I hate the most about satire arz the logical fallacies.
>> No. 73898
>>73699
Man up. Just because you flopped a joke doesn't mean you're necessarily unfunny. It's just a failed joke.
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