There's no such thing as miracles; only incomplete understanding of how the world works.

Any form of technology or science beyond any one people's understanding is by it's very nature magic

>>9270
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Most sciences are incomplete renderings of the truth which therefore remains unexplainable and thus magic.

I believe in paranormal honestly. I've heard so many stories and seen a lot of shit. So it's hard not to believe it.

I believe that unexplained phenomenon can exist, and that if it does, it operates under the rules of nature so thus possesses scientifically identifiable processes behind it. So more or less I'm fascinated by the study of paranormal in a non-fictional sense. Though yeah, some of it is just fun and interesting for fun and interest's sake too.

Good example is the idea of evocation and invocation just being a form of induced dissociative psychosis on the part of the 'caster'. Essentially anthropomorphizing parts of their own mind into perceived external entities, demons or whatnot but really just talking to themselves as they would when talking to 'someone' in a dream. A theory that makes it way interesting and approachable to me.

I also really fucking love number-stations.

I consider myself pretty materialistic-scientific-agnostic/atheist but I just fucking love reading about the occult, esoteric, paranormal, magical and whatnot. Diagrams/anatomies of the body and soul, sigils, methods of summoning or casting stuff, etc; I don't believe any of it for a second but I'm just so drawn to it. I guess the appeal is similar to most other works of fantasy being sort of an "imagination fap" but it's all way more organized and systematized.

actually, its what we do when 420 is down...

Sure I don't believe in ghosts and such, but they are intriguing because of the psychology of it. Also, such stories are always fun to read. To think of it, the second reason is really the number one reason for me.

I believe that the purpose of the idea of the paranormal is to convince us that the ideas labelled with the term are paranormal ideas. For example "mind control". Imagine a person who was not influenced at all in their actions by the mere desires of others, who lived surrounded by their next of kind in a small region of an otherwise uninhabited area. Now imagine be nice to that person. It would be wrong. Now try to imagine how anyone else might profit at your expense from convincing you to believe that that person is normal. There are so many mundane, tedious, things which you cannot discuss openly, honestly, and responsibly with people you care about, because they SOUND vaguely paranormal when you do so, and they feel such things are silly. So what does "believe the paranormal" mean?

SAGE has been used.

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I know that some of it is very real and I am interested in hearing from tohers about their experiances.

Like most people I've experienced strange things, voices calling my name and glimpses of a person in shadows or corners etc. The kind of stuff you just chalk up to the unpredictable spasms of the human mind, synthesizing things that aren't there from the static.

However, I have had one experience in particular that defies explanation. To give you some context, around age 13 my grandfather died. While I knew who he was he wasn't much more to me than an old man who comically large amounts of wasabi and pissed himself occasionally. So, I thought nothing of cursing his name and generally being obscene with a ouija board in the darkened loft of a barn on our family farm. After doing this for a few minutes by candlelight, the stereotypical gust of chilly, cold wind comes despite being indoors. The candle is blown out, and there is a moment of absolute silence and darkness save the moon-lit lone column of smoke spiraling from the extinguished candle.

Then all hell breaks loose. Cups are flung off the shelves, plates come crashing to the floor, papers are flying everywhere, in complete poltergeist fashion. Naturally I'm cowering in a corner holding a pillow in front of me while this happens for the ten or fifteen seconds before the room returns to normality. I was completely panicked, but I'm still certain there wasn't anything else in the room with me that could have caused shit to start flying around like it did.

The whole place was in disarray. I calmed down for a few minutes before cleaning it up, and... that's it. There were no storms, no open windows, no pets, birds, animals, or really anything I can think of that would explain this away as coincidence. Other than "I don't know" I'm completely stumped by the whole event and honestly question my sanity. I've never told anyone about it either (and had them believe me at least), and I don't expect Tom to either, but I wouldn't type this out if it hadn't actually happened to me.

Despite this I still consider all /x/ boards to be for the most part bullshit copypasta and fairy tales. I guess that would put me in the fascinated but only almost convinced category.

>>9270
I tend towards the latter. Almost all paranormal things are bullshit but you eventually come across that one case that is still unsolvable. Then you're left to reflect on something unfinished and try to find a real explanation. The whole "hurr i got magic powers and a tulpa" shit is garbage. The real paranormal is to take a degree of skepticism and then use it to push the boundries of the unexplained.

>>9560
Cool. I have a similar experience (although on a much lower scale) which no one believes either (or takes seriously).
>be upset for some reason, thinking that someone is observing me
>shout out in my room "SHOW YOURSELF"
>half a second later my rooms lightbulb explodes

And when I was 16
>start fucking up in school and become severely apathic (still am to this day)
>one day (when the defining desicion of my up-fuckery occurs, long story) I get a text message while I'm sitting on the livingroom couch
>text message is from my moms number which reads "PLEASE"
>my moms phone was placed on the table in front of me and no one had used it and when I checked it hadn't any textmessage of that sort been sent

I think it's possible that paranormal things are real. Unlikely, but possible. As other people have said magic and the paranormal is just things we don't yet understand. There's a lot of things we don't understand about the world, and the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.

Still, when I have to make decisions around such things, I usually go with the option that, based on the information I have, makes the most sense. Hence I will rarely act as if paranormal type shit is real, because it's very unlikely.