Humans sometimes seek solace in the unknown when their lives seem chaotic, restless and abandoned. Instead of a demon, do the following: Take one white candle and light it, every day at 7:00 AM in the morning. Focus on the light intensely and picture how you want your life to change for the better. Then take that intention, write it down on a piece of paper, and burn the paper (transform the energy in conscious reality). Once you are done turn off the candle.

Perform this ritual 15 minutes before you go to sleep every night as well.

This "spell" will instill a much needed structural graphic in your life. It will introduce order into the chaos of your existence.

I do not believe you are deranged or that because you are 13 that you deserve any less respect that any adult would. I hope this will help you.

>>7416
Actually, this does help, quite a bit, because pyromancy was actually what I was aiming for... The reason I chose to try and contact Furcas in the first place was because it was said that he is good at removing timidity (which is the main reason I have few friends) and because he also dealt with pyromancy. I'm a huge pyro, so I have a little chem workshop and a fire pit, and plenty of butane lighters and candles. So, all in all, pyromancy just seemed like the best option.

Seeing as how I just woke up, I retrieved a purple candle I bought from a "spiritual goods" shop and lit it, meditated for a few minutes, wrote my intentions on the paper, and burned it. Nothing went wrong, so I will keep doing this every morning, every night. Thanks for the help.

OP, I would just practice the simple ritual that the previous poster recommended. I wouldn't dare try and practice Goetic Magick until you are really ready. Try something simpler, like just practicing pentagram rituals and doing some sort of daily devotion.

>>7417
what this anon says
>>7416
works quite well. like you said, summoning demons is THE last resort, to my extent of knowledge.

I've worked the candles into my normal schedule, and all seems to be going well.

Since I have this down, I want to try a real ritual, (something like >>7418 mentioned, something that involves runes and a small sacrifice) as making contact would help me take this so much more seriously, knowing that what I'm working with is the real deal. Now, I own a Ouija Board, a good silver pendulum, and I have until Friday to do anything. I'm thinking about possibly finding my spirit guide & guardian. Wish me luck!

So you're summoning a demon so that you can make friends?

There's easier ways to do this shit man.

>>7442

Noooo, it has nothing to do with friends. I'm content with the ones I have, anyway, seeing as how most of the people I know are Ed Hardy douchebags.

Try this:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Hermeticism/LBR.htm

And while you are practicing, keep this in mind:

"Those who regard this ritual as a mere device to invoke or banish spirits, are unworthy to possess it. Properly understood, it is the Medicine of Metals and the Stone of the Wise."

-Aleister Crowley

These were mistakenly posted with another which is not active, I have since removed it and am now reposting Sources for the Arts
Forums
http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php Especially the articles by Prophesy
http://www.sacred-magick.org/
Over view/Basics
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/tomekeeper/index.html
Chaos
http://deathbylollipop.com/
http://www.boudicca.de/max1-e.htm
http://hermetic.com/crowley/magick-without-tears/
Night Magic method is ok, religion is lol
http://www.nightmagick.com/mainpage.shtml
Nature/Spirit
http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/nature_spirit_magic.php
Necromancy
http://www23.brinkster.com/falcis/spells.html
Magicians’ cabal
http://the-cabal.proboards.com/index.cgi
Library of Grimoires
http://english.grimoar.cz/?Loc=idx&Lng=2
http://vsociety.net/wiki/V-Library#Bardon.2C_Franz
http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/1463124-thelema418
http://www.hermetics.org/ebooks.html

>>7477

I wonder if OP even knows what to do with one of these.... If he/she is gonna delve into demon evocation he better get cracking.

I really don't understand why people think they can jump into advanced magick without working their way up. IMHO, I think that NO ONE should attempt such evocations until they have successfully attained Knowledge and Conversation with their Holy Guardian Angel. That's what the G.'.D.'. taught and that's what I am going to stick with.

People seem to be using magick solely for personal gain, and not for personal enlightenment. If you want to stroke your ego, I guess that's fine, go Left-Hand Path for all I care. Don't come crying to me when it all doesn't work out and you get absorbed back into the godhead anyway....

>>7564
Not everyone believes in, acknowledges the idea of or utilises the concept of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel: just because it's a common idea in the G.D and in Western Magick doesn't mean to say that it's a concept any of us have to use. Similarly, not everyone believes that transcendental magick is somehow more noble or more effective a route to take than practical magic, so until and unless their results can be objectively measured and reliably demonstrated with compelling evidence, I'd say nobody is afforded the right to act as though their worldview is somehow "better" than anyone else's.

>>7566

I never stated that one system is "better" than another. I am simply stating that if you are going to use Western methods such as Goetia, it is wise to follow the guidelines set forth by people who have been successful with it in the past to get the point where one is able to perform it safely.

All I am really saying is that you should have the proper protection before you go and start fucking around with Goetia.

If you want simple material gain and are a beginner, you might as well just do simple elemental/planetary rituals and sigil magick. There's no point in risking your sanity.

>>7567
The embittered implication was certainly there in the tone of your post regardless, what with mentions of stroking one's ego going left-hand path "for all you care", and to have the OP not come crying to you. They were hardly the words of someone humbly helping the OP out.

Pick up some saliva and smoke it when you start to make your mind get out of the way. and burn some food. any food will work but the better it tastes the better

You don't want to mess with demons, dude. Once you let them into your life they will not leave, even after you regret it.

ITT: Too many Thelemites and Goetians. We need a good Chaote to fuck the mix up. Unfortunately, that's not me. Still, I struck a bargain with one of the daemons from the book of Solomon, and I've had little ill effects. Still, I passed the test given, so there was no reason for ill-effectsa. Anywho, OP, if you're still here, I'd recommend finding an idiosyncratic method, as with any magical aundertaking. Beyond that, güt lück.

if timidity (societal pressure, psychic blocks), is what stops you, then why not "petition" a particular spirit?

the hoodoo way or even the demonolatry (if you want to deal the goetics check) are a few suggestions you might look into.

you might not need to go all the way for gaining what you seek.

you might reap more from spirits if you see them as teachers (not in a boring way, mind you) rather than business partners (then be really certain to keep your word).

on the chaos magick side:

you make a bunch of sigils all more or less related to what you want to achieve (just reduce the intents) and set everything aside for at least a week (sigilize) and fire them later.

you can paint the sigils with fluorescent paints with lights on, close your eyes take the prepared pipe loaded with salvia, take the hit and open your eyes focusing as much as you can on the sigil. this is partly derived from "pamphage" goetic shamanism technique:

http://pamphage.com/so-you-want-to-be-a-goetic-shaman/

also prepare a "plan b" (banishing incense, salts,etc...) just in case.

whatever you'll do (and the others too) i'll hope you the best in your workings!

instead of the old url check:

http://ilovemagicspells.com/So%20You%20Want%20to%20Be%20a%20Goetic%20Shaman.pdf

black magick just simply isn't the way to go.
please don't make more regrets for yourself.

This is hilarious.

>>7417
Oh wow,

Honestly, you sound pretty awesome and I'd be your friend. Frankly, I know little about magik and it freaks me out somewhat but your high strangeness seems quite charming. I'm not sure you need to summon demons to find a friend. Just try to find people who interest you and aren't completely retarded. Though, I can't say I've done the same myself. Still, as the other folks said, I'm not sure it's worth messing with stuff you don't really understand just to be less lonely.

Frankly your an idiot, no offense. But it sounds to me like you have done very little homework in regards to general magick use. Don't do things unless you know what you are doing. I've been a practicioner for over 10 years... I know what I'm talking about.

>>7739
>>frankly your an idiot
>>practicioner
>>your practicioner

Yeah, so you traded your grammar for what in a pact with Enbilulugugal?

Don't forget, you need semen. This is the ultimate magical fluid.

>>7739

HI this seems a useful thread. I am an adept of chaos magic. My magic is purely mine own. But i am interested to branch out. This idea of seeking one's Holy Guardian Angel seems a bit odd to me, being a pagan by belief, but born unto the church. What do>?

>>8897

You know what they say. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Even a man of science in despair can try using something he doesn't even believe. Actually I think many people that dwell in the occult were "logical" people that simply began studying these practices as a last resort

>>8904

How about no.

>>8897
>>8904
I've always liked Crowley's idea of invocation and evocation as being nothing more than just anthropomorphizing aspects of one's own subconscious, no actual external demons or any such hogwash. So as if one invokes something to aid with their personality or whatnot, they're actually just using a form of self-hypnosis to promote whatever positive attributes they want.

Gives it all a tremendous foundation within psychology, and many parallels with religions, self-help strategies, lucid dreaming, and all such things really.

>>8914 This.

You guys stop discouraging and help him. They exist to be implemented, not to be feared of.

>>8914

I find it ironic how you talk about the subconscious and psychology, but engage in a crushing amount of denial and rationalization every moment of your waking life.

>>8916
What's wrong with the soft sciences?

>>8917

>soft sciences

make sure that you and the demon aren't in the circle together.

Make sure you know your Latin pronunciation and everything.

make sure you bind the demon. he will use everything he can think of to escape. you must not let this happen. also, be careful of the wording of the deal you make with him. leave no loopholes. and remember, Never trust what he says.

man, i wouldnt be messing with goetia magik, demons are two faced.. theyll want something more then intented in return... and they dont go they stick around and mess with your mind, and life even more..

I agree with them. You have to have specific knowledge of what you're doing. It's even difficult for extremely experienced individuals in the black arts. Summoning circles are even more so. you can't leave until the ritual is finished and the circle safely released. If you or someone happen to enter or leave during a ritual or summoning, you can break the circle, the terms with which the circle was bound, and in short, you're fucked.
if I missed it, 7416 is really intelligent. follow this anons advice.

You are your own demon