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Well, I fucked up.

I have stayed away from coke since the mid 90's, I had to or I was going to never stop going to prison, and the scene was bad, very bad, alot of blood.

I have been doing good at staying away from it, especially with the prolifferation of the internet, plenty of great white noise to get lost in.

new years eve at a large party mostly full of kids half my age, best friend and some of our old friends we have not seen in awhile ended up in a bedroom pounding drinks, I thought we were there to get away from all the stupid kids, which in hindsight is pretty stupid of me as I know better. Anyways, out came the base of course. Perfectly spun, I could see the love.

Like I said I have not touched the stuff in almost 20 years. I figure what the hell, I'll just keep pounding rye and toking and if I jones too much big deal since I'll pass out after awhile anyways.

After awhile mins we had each smoked around 2 balls and the entire supply (that I had seen) was almost gone, crumbs remained.

I had my last hit on a card, my friend grabed the card and used it to scoop ashes as thats how he liked his and then took his hit, I didnt notice at first but he had accidentally taken my hit and did it with his own.

And then I figured it out.
I seriously reached for a gun that I have not carried in over 20 years, my hand went right to the spot, if it had been there, I would have shot him. Probably in the head.

We take family vacations together. Our kids are in the same class.

I got up out of there and threw my wallet and car keys on the front lawn and fucked off.

So I made it through the initial jones, it was right there, like the decades without never even happened. The same demon that used to sit on my shoulder while I robbed dealers and such to support a need that only ever got worse. What the fuck would I do now that I have a house I could morgage and a company I could defraud?

And here is is, two days later and I still have that "nothing is ever going to be ok" feel that taints every waking moment just as hard as I ever did back in the day. I dont know what the fuck I was even thinking, I still dream about that shit and wake up tasting it for fucks sake it was stupid of me to think I could ever do it casually.

And now I cant even get drunk, weed doesnt do shit either.

Anyways, just venting. This isnt a cautionary tale or anything, if you can handle whatever you do, great, I cant, thats my problem.
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>> No. 30
Keith???
>> No. 33
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Hey! Someone else who has also been addicted to coke. Admittedly you have much more mileage than me, I'm just some freshly 23 -year-old burnout. Stay safe man, I guess go to AA if you need to. I got arrested a few years ago and had to attend as part of a program I entered to avoid conviction/probation/etc., and it ended up being kinda' helpful. It might do the same for you.
>> No. 34
That's what you get for fucking with cocaine. It's one of the only three or fours I ask everyone I meet that does the occasional drug NEVER to even try.

Sure, it's hypocritical coming from me, since I've tried two of those four, but that's exactly why I know to tell them never to try them.

But then again, I'm really sorry you had that experience. I'm not here to just shrug it and go "serves you right". But you know just as well as I do, that it does. Again, sorry.
>> No. 35
Addiction isn't caused by the drug, but the brain.

Anyways good luck on kicking it op. It's a cunt I know.
>> No. 36
>>34
What? So many people do coke. Are you kidding? It's a very common drug, and most people can do it on occasion and never get addicted. I've done coke far more times than I can count, and I never got addicted. I'm kind of done with it too. It really isn't even that amazing.

To OP though, I'm sorry you are going through that. Stay strong though man. Don't admit defeat to such urges. You can be stronger than that. Strive to be stronger. You can do it, because you do have willpower and you aren't weak. Challenge your mind and overcome.
>> No. 53
Holy shit man. That kinda scared me. It was more of a disturbing than scare, but it still moved me.


I tried coke for the first time a month ago. Did a bump then a good sized line. Pure shit, we cut the rest and got our money back. Bought it from a huge coke dealer Latin King in southside Chicago. Good, real shit.
I didn't feel much. I felt awake, maybe even a little active. But as far as drugs go, opiates have little effect unless I take a lot, booze only hinders my physical movement and pot works.
But coke man, holy shit. I was surprised because I felt NO high. No euphoria. I was sitting in a room of people that spend hundreds of dollars an hour on this shit, and I didn't get it.
I think I get it from my dad, he's taken twice the amount of ketamine they give to a horse to knock it out and he drove home and went to work later completely sober.

But what scared me was that even though it did nothing for me, all I could think about is "Can I have some more"?
It did nothing, but I wanted more.
That's a scary though.
>> No. 58
>>26
I hope you got a little something good from writing that. Good post.

You can tell why those assholes from 12-step recovery programs are so goddamn dogmatic about never, ever being able to responsibly use their substance, not even once, because it literally isn't possible for them to do. I personally think that there are a ton of people who can use tons of different drugs in moderation but then again, there's people like you and me, OP.

Good luck with that. The important thing to remember is that even though you're not doing coke on a regular basis, you just gotta be aware that if/when you do it again you need to limit the impact of relapse or a bender or whatever. I just say to myself "ok, it's happening, but it's not the end of the world, come up with a plan and do it" instead of hating myself and drinking myself half to death again.
>> No. 60
>>53

I had the same experience with coke. I had never tried it before and some friends procured a bit, so I hit a few lines... nothing. Don't know if it was just cut to shit or something but I felt slightly clearer and nothing more. Why waste obscene amounts of money on something that makes you feel a little clearer? It's on the same level as cigarettes if you ask me.
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>>35
so the key is change the brain, but then question is how to change the brain? meditation,
but whatever, everyone is a fool with deaf ears
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>>62
changing the mind, eh? Pathways form from use. I've read a bit of this and that in favor of hallucinogenic use for change of bad/addictive behavior. Mushrooms used for cluster headaches, LSD like drug for heroin addiction. Other lifestyle changes help/work well towards the goal but it's rehab, not a cure. Mind altering drugs may help get you off the harder stuff by telling your brain's current traffic patterns to (as the picture states):
>> No. 65
>>62

I'm the guy you responded to, and you are somewhat correct. There is a bit more to it than that, but meditation at helps.
>> No. 89
>>53
Coke is addictive because it makes you feel awake.
>>36
Although I think myself and this guy don't get it because we already know how to cope.

Coke was never addictive to me, but then again, nothing ever was. I just liked chilling with people and it was something to do.

>>26
I think you should try hiking or bicycle riding. It is recommended that people with addictions seek exercise and movement in any form to fill the replete levels of happy hormones they lack. It may be a serious indicator that you drink alcohol regularly, maybe not to excess, but also that marijuanas is used as a crutch.

I love me some coke when I've got a long study session.
>> No. 162
>>89
>>89
>I love me some coke when I've got a long study session.


ho ho ho hokay dr. freud
>> No. 164
>>89
Coke is addictive because it has addictive properties, dumbass.
>> No. 166
>>63
LSD without a doubt was the reason I was able to kick heroin.
It also made me more motivated, creative, and in my opinion an all-around better person.
This was after only two intense trips.
>> No. 167
>>166
go into more detail preas
>> No. 169
>>167
It's very hard to explain, as is your mindset during a typical acid trip. Short story is, I feel as though the first time I injected heroin my mental architecture was rearranged. I can't define the changes, but I could feel them. At first I liked this mindset, until 3 years, countless thousands of dollars, wasted hours, possible diseases, self-hatred and regret later I realized that something had to change. I hated who I had become, I hated that I couldn't even properly feel the high anymore. I tried suboxone, and everything my therapist recommended short of rehab (I was in school, and doing well, didn't want to mess that up). LSD came through our city one weekend, and I had never tried it before, so I decided sure. My friend (who was experienced) and I ate 4 hits each and had an absolute blast.
LSD changed my mental architecture, just like heroin did. Except LSD changed it for the better. It hadn't returned it to it's original state (which is impossible after any drugs), but from what I can tell made it better. During the first trip, I took some Suboxone to keep me from withdrawing. I had absolutely no cravings for dope, and felt a silent internal critique of myself. This is also hard to describe, but I felt as though I could see into the future and into the past, and knew that heroin was the cancer that had been eating away at the life I wanted to live.
In short and by analogy, LSD rebuilt my house out of the remains of a tornado. In just 7-8 hours I was completely changed.
After that day, I of course used again, but it was just to stay well. We tripped again the weekend after that, and after this trip I decided to kick cold turkey. No bupe, nothing. I spent a few days out of school, between the couch and the toilet, eyes nose mouth watering withdrawal, but I didn't want any more dope.
I spent the months after that in deep depression, and eventually got better.
I still use opiates occasionally, but am not addicted to them in any sense, and never touch a needle.


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