I don't know.

>>267
Who cares, why should you care?

Because it's the easy way to view it.

It's a view that (in most people) doesn't add to your experience of the world, and does not help you to actually understand things.

>>267
What would nihilism help with? If you deny nihilism and are wrong, it won't matter.

Nihilism is a belief in nothing. You cannot believe in nothing, clearly, since there is something.

>>273
Nihilism is the belief that nothing has value/meaning since it's only us that impose meaning on phenomena. In the words of Nietzsche: "There are no moral phenomena, only moral interpretations of phenomena".

Anyway, I'm not a nihilist because my evolved nature doesn't allow it and it's no fun at all.

I see it like this: Nihilism is a premise, not a philosophy. You need to build on it in order to reach a philosophy.

If you believe that the lack of meaning in the universe means we can create whatever meaning we want, you're an Existentialist.

If you believe that there is no meaning in the universe, so we should all just die, you're a Futilitarian

Of course there are other schools of thought on this, but I haven't the patience to go through all of them.

TL;DR Nihilism is incomplete.

rude

>>295
Atheism and theism isn't about knowing if there's a god, it's about believing in a god or not. An agnostic that doesn't actively believe in or worship a god is per definition still an atheist. Agnosticism is an unrelated term that's used by uneducated people and fools to try and sound smart and as an attempt to escape having to take a stance.

What I'm trying to say is that whoever wrote that argument is arguing like an ass because the comparison is completely retarded and the argument that follows is equally stupid.

>>297
i'm an i-don't-care-ist. is that better?

this is not a problem that concerns me in the slightest, and i don't see why it should

>>297
Words don't have fixed meanings you know. What you are saying might be the "official" definition (as in, the one found in the dictionary), but that's hardly how these terms are used these days.

From the way these words are used by people nowadays I think this is what they mean:
Theism: you believe in a supreme deity
Atheism: you do not believe in a supreme deity
Agnosticism: you do not know/care

Also, belief and knowledge aren't that far apart. Last time I checked the most commonly used definition of knowledge is "justified true belief".

>>305
>What you are saying might be the "official" definition (as in, the one found in the dictionary), but that's hardly how these terms are used these days.
That's not how dictionaries work. They aren't trying to tell you how you should speak, but tell you how words are being used on a daily basis. If my definition is the one in the dictionary it's because that is how the word is being used today.

>Theism: you believe in a supreme deity
> Atheism: you do not believe in a supreme deity
> Agnosticism: you do not know/care
Which is still two different parameters, but somehow I think you knew that as you felt the need to add:

>Last time I checked the most commonly used definition of knowledge is "justified true belief".
Which might be true, but it doesn't actually prove the statement that "belief and knowledge aren't that far apart", which they are.

Knowing something requires evidence. Whatever you believe before you have those evidence are precisely that, a belief.

What's more is that people forget about gnosticism. Which is confusing as hell since you'd think the prefix "a" in "agnostic" would be an indication, but I guess not. Either way, it might explain why so many people assume that it is somehow an end all to the atheism vs theism-debate.

The statements should actually go something like this:
Theism: I believe in at least one deity.
Atheism: I don't believe in any deity.
Gnostic: I believe you can achieve knowledge about the existence of any deity.
Agnostic: I don't believe you can achieve knowledge about the existence of any deity.

>>311
So yes, you can be an agnostic theist, a gnostic atheist, a gnostic theist and an agnostic atheist.

>>303
You don't believe in or worship any deities, your reason is uninmportant. Therefore you're an atheist.

>>311
>That's not how dictionaries work.

Someone needs to brush up on their Derrida/deconstructionism.