Addendum: Where is music heading towards? What was the last properly new genre/subgenre/style to be developed that is idiosyncratic enough to be considered something new instead of a variation? What is there left to do? Where do you see music in a decade? A century? A millennium?

Come on, let's talk.

Not terribly new, but I'm glad hip-hop and rap artists have embraced trap. Rap is one of only a couple of uniquely American genres in the past 30 years and I'm glad they've embraced the hardstyle and trance elements of trap because it broadens the genre. I don't know that rap has really cross pollinated with other genres on such a large scale before, but now that it has I think you'll see it begin to cross with even more.

>>1620
So is "trap" trance-rap?

  goddamn this shit is INTENSE

  >>1621

  >>1622
Reminds me of Listener that someone posted here a year or two ago.

  i like this song

  Heres a good one I like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_(Cloud_Cult_album)

>>1639
>>1640
ಠ_ಠ

I feel like in the last 10 years or so, sampling has become more and more of a genre-crossing thing. It used to be largely relegated to electronic genres and hip-hop but it's getting to the point now where I'm seeing folk acts with an SP-404 on stage. I blame Panda Bear. Not that I'm complaining, sampling is the bee's knees.

As far as new "genres", I guess that whole "beat scene" thing would be it right now. It's more or less just a natural progression of the post-Dilla instrumental hip-hop world but there's a crazy melding of genres and influences going on that has taken shit way beyond categorization as instrumental hip-hop. The focus on texture is much more prominent than it ever was in hip-hop. Lots of crazy conflations of texture-oriented ambient music, dreampop/shoegaze, "IDM", dub, soul, more recent subgenres like chillwave, left-field sampling... all filtered through the lens of a bunch of kids who grew up on hip-hop.

Artists I'm talking about:
Matthewdavid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWB2WMx1AD8)
Shlohmo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIKMKki5l1M)
Teebs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2om8SMeDJPY)
etc.

The other big revolution of modern times is the rise of home recording. A home studio used to be the realm of the rich or the serious hobbyist. A 4-track portastudio was the only affordable way to record at home, and then you'd end up with a pretty lo-fi, obviously homebrewed recording. These days, if you have a laptop, an external soundcard, and $60 for a Reaper license, you can make professional-quality recordings, the kind of shit you used to have to pay hourly to do in a studio. That's opened up a whole world of bedroom producers who are freed from the limits of having to book studio time at 4am on a Tuesday because that's the only time they can afford. Technology has made creating and releasing music easier than ever.

>>1662
I feel all of that is way too last decade.

>>1663
This is exactly what happened the other 50 times you made this thread. People would make a legitimate effort to contribute, and then you would dismiss anything anyone else posted with little one sentence posts and claim we didn't get what you meant by "new" music.

Then the thread would devolve into people insulting you and you throwing a bitchfest.

"Hey here's some music I think is pretty innovative because x, y, and z reasons. You can see the influence of a, b, and c but these artists have really gone beyond to create something new and exciting that defies previous definitions of what n could be!"
"Psh, that is so 2009!"

  >>1664
And so I'm not solely bitching at you for your history being such a vague and dismissive fusspot, I'll contribute a very interesting band I stumbled across via the CBC a while back.

Kind of a tense mix of mathrock, folk and post-punk played with home-made instruments. The dude in the band used to build percussion instruments for Blue Man Group and the girl used to be a bike mechanic apparently, so they invent or modify the instruments they play.

>>1664
I'm sorry.

>>1663
Seriously? You post an album that sounds almost exactly like several current 93 albums dating back to at least 1995 and claim that it's fresh and new, and then proceed to shit on someone elses contribution? Ironic? Have you even heard any other current 93 albums or did you rush over here after listening to this one? God, this thread is making me nostalgic about the last thread. Good times.

>>1691
I've listened to virtually everything they've done since 1982 except the odd split cassette and a handful of live albums (they've too many).

Pray tell, mister: What other release is identical to Baalstorm[...], and how?

  Holly Herndon. She's a former club DJ who is apparently now doing Ph.D music studies at Stanford and creates music built almost entirely on processed vocal work. She has a song called "Breathe" that's composed with breathing sounds. Very cool shit.

She's kind of following in the footsteps of Matthew Herbert but less dance-oriented and more abstract.

>>1694
Kind of like Björk's Medúlla

>>1695
Yeah, for sure. The main difference would be that Holly Herndon's vocal work is processed to the point where it doesn't even really sound like human vocal work, and there are no lyrics. The Bjork album has very strong a capella components and lyrics, which gives it a bit more of a pop feel; the vocals are mostly immediately identifiable as vocals. Not so much on Movement.

>>1696
I'd say Medúlla is a mix of both, though. Think about it: There's nothing BUT vocals on that album. Every bassline, every percussive element, every texture, that's all vocals, both altered and not. But this Holly Herndon sounds interesting, to say the least.

I'm still waiting and holding hopes for Ulver's new album. They have a thing for having almost all of their albums sound like they were made by different bands in different decades, sometimes into the future.

Other than that I think we're screwed and can finally declare music to be a complete and finished medium.

cigaretteledge.bandcamp.com
My favourite release from the tail end of last year.
Soul-beat/vwave type stuff.

>>1697
There's no new colors but there's still a lot of new sounds to be heard. Here's a sound /instrument most people have never heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXW4Yps5g74#t=2m34s

..and here's another unique 'instrument'/sound from the same mix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXW4Yps5g74#t=6m10s

>>1701
Good stuff. 3,4,6,11 & 12 esp. 9 is basically a mashup mix but pretty good shiz.

>>1702
Are you being serious here?

>>1704 Absolutely. They are new sounds to 'popular' music. The 2nd example could be compared to the synth in M83's Midnight City, but other than that.. Feel free to disagree in a somewhat rational manner.

>>1705
Well I do disagree. It all sounds like that awful wave of bass-heavy pseudo progressive house "artists" that came from the U.S. around the time Skrillex and Deadmau5 became popular. The only thing that keeps it form being full-on brostep is the lack of acid bass.

>>1706
I get the comparison to brostep for the first example I gave, but I think the effect in question is used more as a traditional instrument than it is in popular 'dubstep' tracks. If you know any more songs that use the human voice 'effect' in my second example I'd be glad to hear them. In M83's Midinght City the 'effect' actually is his voice heavily filtered.

>>1707
But that trait comes from French House, whence Progressive House comes.

>>1707
That's because that's an element intrinsic to French House, which gave way to Progressive House and of course carried it with it.

>>1708
>>1709
Okay s̶p̶i̶d̶e̶r̶ genre experts, show me those two sounds in this mass of awful pseudo progressive house that washed up on your shores.

>>1710
come again

>>1711
I posted two (what I thought) were unique sounding 'instruments' in >>1702. Maybe I wasn't clear and it seems like I meant the song segments as a whole, but I actually meant just the 'Predator organ' in the first one and the 'voice keyboard' in the 2nd. My point being that music was not 'over' like >>1697 declared. That's all. Let's move on.

>>1713
Oh well I'm not saying it's literally over, I'm just extremely worried about the development speed of the past five years

>>1716
It is a little slow I'll give you that. Could be one of a couple of things. (1) Maybe the proto-new genre is out there right now and is evolving from another genre as we speak and we just can't 'see' it cuz myopia. (2) Maybe we are at an impasse and all anyone can do is cross over/borrow from everything else the past few years and that's where all the energy has been focused. And maybe the new sound/genre will evolve from those hybrids and maybe could not have come about from the original genres.

>>1720
Either fate is sad, but hell I hope it's that last one.

>>1697
>Other than that I think we're screwed and can finally declare music to be a complete and finished medium.
This is one of the most short-sighted and narrow minded things I've ever heard. It's not like music has been a central aspect of every culture on earth since prehistoric times or anything... Just because you seem to be getting bored with guitars and synthesizers does not mean that organized rhymthic and harmonic sound is dead as a form of human expression.

"I'm bored with fucking my girlfriend. That means sex is dead. Soon people won't be having sex at all."

Every complaint in this thread is incredibly biased toward western popular music. Try branching out. African music (there's crazy shit coming out of Mali right now), Turkish music (which is always incredible especially from a rhythmic point of view), gamelan, etc etc etc.

Maybe if you stopped focusing so much on western pop artists (even experimental ones) and actually got a little adventurous, you wouldn't be such jaded, pompous douchebags.

There's also the old standby of "if you're not happy with it, do it better." Instead of complaining about how "dead" music is, make music that YOU find compelling. If none of the music being made by others turns your crank, then make music for yourself that will turn it. Instead of bitching about others' lack of innovation, try to fill that gap with the innovation you seem so convinced is lacking.

Maybe you won't succeed, but you'll probably stop complaining because you'll actually be an active, creative, imaginative individual instead of an armchair quarterbackcomposer.

>>1759
>>1761
>>1762
Leaving aside the assumptions, the exaggerations and the feeble, superficial analysis, I understand what you're saying.

Now, why don't you wipe the sweat out of your buttcrack and give some examples? Specifically of this
>Try branching out. African music (there's crazy shit coming out of Mali right now), Turkish music (which is always incredible especially from a rhythmic point of view), gamelan, etc etc etc.

Because I do listen to music from those places, and others. I just don't make a fuzz about it because whenever people don't accuse you of being "western biased", you're being accused of pretending you're oh so inclusive ladeeda look at me I listen to Yusufu Olatunji I'm so ethnic and shit.

So yeah, give me some good music. Either way take a chill pill. I can't believe you've made it this far without understanding how hyperbole, context and content analysis. I didn't want to turn this into either a complain-fest nor a shouting contest, but your useless, needlessly aggressive stance leaves me no choice. Fuck.

>>1763
I didn't find any of those responses to be feeble, aggressive or hyperbolic. I found them well thought out and fairly direct responses to the concerns about the state of music that you raise.

Anyway, check out UbuWeb, OP. It's a free online archive of avant garde works and includes tons of experimental music from tons of cultures, eras, and so forth.
http://www.ubuweb.com/

>>1763
To be fair, you are now (and have been in your previous attempts at this thread) just as rudely dismissive and aggressive as any of the people criticizing your stance.

>>1804
Bookmarked
>>1805
You know what you can do to shut me up and revel in the glory of one-upping an obviously pretentious, unbearable cunt like me who is probably a fat loser with no friends in real life, right?

Give me something that sounds like nothing else (and is also contemporary).


This is not a thread in which I try to prove I'm some sort of music wizard who has heard it all. This is a desperate call for help. Now help me.

>>1832
We can't "help" you when your whole premise for this thread is flawed.

>>1832
So in other words:
"Do you know how you can one-up me? Validate my skewed and narrow view of contemporary music and operate under the assumption that I am right instead of poking holes in my prejudices."

>>1833
>>1835
Yes, I'm an unbearable cunt with a superiority complex. Care to recommend me some more music?

  >>1836
What say you of this >>1773 ?
<---- or this?
They came out with a new album in November I think. Haven't given it a listen yet. I have the album these two songs are from. If someone wants it I'll upload it.

>>1837
Jesus no. But upload it anyway, this board could use some traffic/other people might like it

>>1910
In this particular thread, "good music" means whatever you think is good. Whether I (OP) end up liking it or not is a different story. I'm asking for recommendations, so of course I assume you're not going to recommend something you think is shit.

But mainly my wish is to find contemporary music that is inventive, original, new, fresh, etc. Regardless of genre/place of origin (although I've never been big on music from the U. S. of A. Just a thing, you know? Like, a thing.)

Colin Stetson's New History Warfare vols. 1 & 2

Julia Holter's Tragedy, Ekstasis and Loud City Song

Kieran Hebden & Steve Reid's Exchange Sessions (especially vol. 1)

Sun Araw, M. Geddes Gengras, & The Congos' Icon Give Thank

Black Mold's Snow Blindness is Crystal Antz

Oh, and any Hieroglyphic Being release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvPLhSv4DOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYUR557lfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-JpqZrPwWs

>>1916
Goddamn those dreadlocks

>>1941
Yeah, man. Un-dreadlocked, that's got to be like 8 feet of hair.

>>1947
They'd be artists anyway and work some other job to make ends meet. You know that super crazy looking guy that works at that hip coffee shop in your neighborhood? He's in a band. You know that kid with the huge dreads and all the piercings that bartends at that weird club night? He spins fire at Burning Man every year. You know that tattoo artist with the bizarre haircut and all the scarification and face tattoos? He does grotesque abstract paintings and plays noise music at basement shows and punk venues.

You just have not been paying attention OP.
Perfect Pussy - Say yes to love came out literally 2 weeks ago.
Big Baby Ghandi - No 1 2 look up 2: late 2013 and was the jam
Antwon - end of earth pre-release: dec 2013
Aidan and Richard Baker - Smudging - 2014
Boris - Pariphrat: 2013
Angel Haze - Reservation -2013
Kool A.D 19, 63, 51 - late 2013
Thee Oh Sees - Drop: 3 weeks ago
Shoes This High - Straight to Hell - last month
Amps for Christ - Crayons, Cars and Crows - Last week
Py Corner Audio - Black Mill Tapes vol 3&4 - january
Jute Gyte - Vast Chains - february
Have a nice life - The unnatural world - 2014
SubRosa - More Constant than Gods - 2014
Ash Pool - Arrach A La Mort, Force a Vivre - 2013
Author and Punisher - Women & Children - 2013
Black Bug - Reflecting the Light - 2013
Boduf Songs - Burt up on reentry -2013
Shitfucker - Suck cocks in hell 2013
Slidhur - Deluge 2013

Ok so obviously I could go on, but just because you are not paying as much attention as you were a few years ago, when you were younger and music was more important does not mean that there are not new younger people making music that is equally awesome. So far it's been a great year for european black metal, boris-worshipping doom, ignant dance hip hop, queer hip hop, and garage.

pic is my favorite off of this list

those are all unique styles from 2014. Black Metal especially is going in interesting directions. Same could be said for hip hop. There is hip hop before Lil' B and hip hop after Lil' B.

>>1955
I really really disagree with your notion that Lil B has had a universal effect on hip-hop.

And if anything, Lil B is just an extension of what Lil Wayne started.

  And while we're on the subject of innovative hip-hop:

Dakim
Delofi
Knx.
Dibia$e

>>1954
You're confused. This thread's not about just albums that have been released recently. It's about gamechanging music.

I mean Präparat? That shit was predictable as hell.

>>1959
Yeah, the fact that his list included Thee Oh Sees should have been the tip off. Damn good psychedelic noisey garage rock, but definitely not anything remotely new.

yeah i was confused, and also high. I thought this was a "nothing good is released anymore" thread. Sorry.

I will say that The Botanist is innovative and new, Black metal with a dulcimer.
Antwon still stands - the track "tramp on a jumpoleen" that's crust crunk, and thats new.

And i still contend that Lil B has been a defining influence on hip hop, even if he is an amalgamation of lil jon's repetitivety and Lil Wayn'es ignance, his entire career was created on twitter and youtube, he is the biggest of the myspace rappers.

I don't know how to embed bandcamp.

https://antwon.bandcamp.com/track/tramp-on-a-jumpaleen-feat-dog-leather-produced-by-dog-leather

>innovative [...] Black metal with a dulcimer.
...have you ever listened to folk black?

www.soundcloud.com/jackandtheripper

i feel like these guys are really pushing the envelope towards finding something rare and new. it sounds like a a mixture of everything thats happened in the last 4 years. the first album delves into a genre im pretty sure will eventually exist and take off to become part of the mainstream culture. but not for at least another 6 more years. i would consider them pioneers. second album is more mature tad safer sounding wise but way more pristine. they are looking for something else by sailing through and skipping between genres. i feel the second one is a great mix between acoustic and electric driven. it reminds me of a weird hi fi bjm but at the same time nothing to do with it. i dont know you should def check these guys out.

>>1968
Where they from, boy?