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327 No. 327
Gentlemen. I must describe to you a perceived injustice. I consider myself to be a socially enlightened fellow of education, pedigree, and decorum. I do not, as a rule, judge others' actions which affect only their own person. HOWEVER, I hold one opinion I consider to be strictly conservative to the point of being reactionary. Even discussing it makes me cringe that I would hold this prejudice and not be willing to accept others' diversity. So, I don't mean to disparage anyone's upbringing or personally criticize anyone. I am approaching this from a purely ethical standpoint as a means of debate. Frankly, I want to be proven wrong.

I do not believe that individuals should have children outside of uncommitted, unestablished circumstances. Some explanation: In my previous employ I helped engaged couples create their wedding registries. At rough estimation, some 20% of these couples already had children before getting engaged. Discounting children from previous partners, some of these children were as old as ten! More commonly, these children were between one and four, but these engagements were clearly not as a response to having a child. Now, I don't care that the couples were choosing to wed, in a way I'm glad that they're raising the child together. What bothers me is that these couples chose to commit to having a child, but felt that the financial and emotional rigors of having a SPOUSE were less serious?

In this vein, one of my old friends became engaged recently. Less than a week later, he announced that he and his now-fiance were expecting. Good for them. But this is what concerns me: My friend, K., works part-time at Dunkin' Donuts (he receives no benefits, and is not in a salaried position.) His fiance is similarly employed, they currently live with K's mother (who pays for their home and is gainfully employed as a nurse.) I respect that the economy is hard. I am still dealing with my own economic hardships, but in what way are these two able to raise a child? As far as I know, they don't even have a moral obligation to have this child, and are wholly choosing to do this of their own volition. I can't help but cringe every time they announce this, or share ultrasounds and the like.

This is immature and self-aggrandizing. Parent's that choose to have children without being fiscally and emotionally established are forcing undue obligations on their children to grow up without the opportunities they could have if their parents had waited. It angers and upsets me, and I cannot see the upside in not criticizing such rash, literally lifetime effecting, decisions.

TL;DR Parents that have children before being financially established and emotionally invested are immature and reprehensible.
>> No. 332
Alas my good fellow, I know this situation all too well.

My younger sister became engrossed to a tattoo artist a few months ago. This, of course, was terrible news to all immediate members of our family name while more distant relatives were joyful of such an announcement for reasons I cannot explain. As the debate went on behind closed doors and after hearing both sides, I had to side with my mother and father who's argument was that my sister couldn't have the child at the tender age of twenty especially since she has no job opportunities and I even doubt she finished her studies. My parents finally submit to litteral tears of my sister who said she wanted to keep it and so on and so forth.

Being the elder of the family at the age of twenty-five, I decided on my own to have no children as of yet (and even if at all) before having a sturdy foot in a promising future with a well-paying career and a faithful wife whom I can trust unconditionally. I consider this to be a natural basis to obtain before even considering the thought of raising a family. I don't necessarily accuse ''hyper-sexualisation'' as the papers coin it but I blame the fact that we don't make people responsible enough of their own person by giving them everything on a platter and we lack the effort of helping them to see in a long-term perspective.

Eventually I was named the uncle of the child. I already have plans to make the child's visit to my home enjoyable with videogames and the like for when he reaches an age to be conscious of his surroundings. I honestly doubt my sister will have the budget to afford entertainement venues for him especially since she has a dead-end job at a fast-food joint and her boyfriend is a tattoo artist which sadly enough dosen't even work at a parlor but rather on a demand basis from his friends and contacts which he often gets by promoting on Facebook. This is a true story. I spoke with the chap a few times and he seems decent enough character-wise but I often doubt he will last when the child will be born and tensions in the couple will arise.

My mother used to brag about how my sister's boyfriend was ''brave'' and the likes but I fail to even see what she meant then since she retracted these claims to keep a more conservative opinion about the gentleman.

To be bold, sir, I initially felt your post resumed to : ''Have no sexual intercourse before marriage''. I am glag to see I was wrong in my judgement and I even fully approve of your idea. Might I suggest however you put the TL;DR at the beginning of your annoucements to avoid such preconceived ideas?


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