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347 No. 347
This board doesn't look too heavily trafficked, so I'll try to remember to come back in a week or so to check in and answer any questions.

I'm in my first year of a doctoral program. I have a background in statistics, but applied looking to cross over to pure mathematics. The school that I'm at right now has math and stats as a singular department. I think they misread my application and thought I was applying to a doctoral program in statistics. Now that I have my foot in the door, they can't really take away my acceptance. However, they've tried to chase me off by not making me a teaching assistant or giving me any financial support. On the road to getting a master’s in statistics, I racked up about 30k in debt, which I don't think is that bad considering the job prospects. But without any aid here, I've already had to take out 10k in loans for this semester, AND had to drop a class in order to afford that. Next semester brings another 10k loan to take out.

I decided to stay here so that I could build up a transcript and show potential schools that I can work at this level. At the end of this semester I'll have 2 A's in Abstract Algebra and Real Analysis. Next semester I'll repeat that with Advanced Linear Algebra and Complex Analysis. Part of me is hoping that after seeing me excel at this level, that the school I'm at will throw me a bone and start to support me. However, I want to have a contingency plan if that doesn't work.

The only thing that sucks about my grad application is my GRE subject test. I'm pretty sure there were schools who automatically turned me down simply because I wasn't good enough on that test. Any school who can get past that should see me as a very capable student, but because of the automation of the application process, I'm not sure which schools actually have human eyes seeing my application. Of course retaking the GRE seems to be the most appropriate option, but the window for doing so in the Fall had expired by the time I thought about retaking it. I'm signed up for April, but it will be too late to have a new score on my application by then.

Do you know of any mathematics programs that don't require the Math GRE for the application process? Or any schools that are fairly lax with entry requirements? (After being denied so much because of my GRE, I've got some pretty low self-esteem, and would love to have an "easy in" school as a confidence booster). Or any general advice for someone who has had a tougher time with the admission process than the actual material?
>> No. 357
University of Central Florida.

One of many southern schools with a fledgling math program, I've heard that any serious applicants with appropriate credentials would almost definitely be accpected from a friend at the school.

Basically, I would look into lesser known southern and midwestern schools in growing states. Don't be ashamed about a lesser known school or perhaps one with even a bad reputation, I've found that the quality of education a person receives depends entirely on how much effort YOU are willing to put into it, not so much how qualified the person grading your proofs is.
>> No. 502
They're probably never going to like you in your dept. Have fun moonlighting as a C.C. adjunct for the next half decade. I think your plan is good, but what would the point of transferring out of two schools instead of just one? To see if you like the low scoring school and want to stick it out there? If I were you I'd take a look at % of international students betting that more china => lower minimum GRE score.
>> No. 504
>>503
I would say it is that bad. They can't make you leave if you pass their qualifiers and maintain an acceptable GPA, but they can choose not to fund you as a TA/RA. There is a guy in my department who is going through this crises at the moment, I think because he was openly critical of some of the practices (and I would say rightly so) of the dept. On the other hand, if you are in good with some of the faculty you can be guaranteed some kind of success, e.g. extra qualifier attempts. I even know one guy who was a lab tech and was offered admission because he got close with a prof who liked his work. It can really help by just not being a social retard and shitting where you eat. Anyway, the result of being a pariah is that you've got to find work somewhere else and the best place is probably teaching at a C.C. to defray some of the expenses. Amusingly, the guy I know must be titled Professor because he does that.

It doesn't sound like you've actually got that problem though, so maybe the dept legitimately doesn't have money and over accepted students. I can't really see why they would care much about the direction of your study unless it is a really small dept and they were depending on someone joining a small program, but I'm physics so I can't really relate there. What'd happen in physics would be like "high energy is full, go find some other passion" or "I'm going to retire/die soon so atmospheric research is effectively ending". That means you'd potentially be spending more time waiting for positions to open up as others graduate which is bad if you're taking on debt for a math phd. If they laid it out like "you join this program and you get funding" you should just take it and milk it for all it is worth. Better to get paid and then switch uni than to pay and end up switching anyway.

I haven't really heard the bit about saying you want to teach. I can't see many faculty really care too much about it, as they're already set with a position and if they're actually making decisions they've been there for a decade and firmly entrenched. I don't think I have ever heard of a faculty member being proud of their doctoral students that went on to teach though, they usually talk about the ones that went to work with Intel or something like that. I can imagine that it is different in math though as most people would just assume math phds are going to teach.
>> No. 569
>>347
University of Houston is desperate for math majors.

Or so I hear. They don't require the Subject Test either, and have low standards for the General GRE.
I only made a 75% on the Math Subject test after studying my rear end off for 5 days, and I know I'm a shoo-in if it comes to that.
I got my sights set on University of Rochester though.
>> No. 573
>>508
There is not enough time in the world for that. Its also very much diminishing returns, your day job would be some minimumish wage crap while you are more than qualified for a regular job.

>>569
I grew up in Rochester and I've got a good friend in the math PhD program that I went to school with from high school to college. If there is anything I can help you with reply back, I'll probably be seeing him this weekend but chances are nobody is going to even check this board for another month.
>> No. 578
Right you are, but I'm glad I got back to you!

I'm currently residing in the wonderful town of Rochester studying my eyes out because I was accepted with tuition waived and everything. Who would your friend be?


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