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127 No. 127
Stochastic models subsume deterministic ones.

Stats and probability need to be taught hand-in-hand with early higher mathematics, as much as spring models and conic sections and differentials.
>> No. 128
Eh, it depends on the context. I agree that stochastic models need to be taught, especially to engineers and applied mathematicians, but there are plenty of phenomenon that can be modeled just fine deterministically.
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>>128
I agree that they can be modeled just fine, but along the lines of teaching proofs earlier in math education, it shapes the way a student approaches all problems.

Plus, stochastic behavior is undeniably an aspect of all real phenomenon. x^2 with probability 1 is the x^2 taught in textbooks, but is nowhere to be found in physical reality.


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