>>75333

Politicians need the population to grow to support the pension system and business owners want cheap labour.

It's sold to the public as "diversity" but hellza it's just about money.

>>75334

MOAR BROWN PEOPLE YES

Wars change, expand, intensify, move toward larger population centers, etc. There's also the whole tipping point thing: people might tolerate a shitty situation for a while or struggle through it but then maybe a bunch of people get fed up and flee and that pushes the remaining mass to follow in their footsteps and also flee.

I don't know or understand why everyone is so pissed at Syrian migrants. I understand that an influx of millions of refugees is expensive and presents massive logistical problems but what are they supposed to do, stay in a blown-to-shit warzone where their children can't attend school? They're taking a chance on an unknown instead of staying with a known horrible and dangerous situation. What would you do in their shoes?

In Canada, the public (and often, media) stance is that Canada should be opening up to accept an influx of refugees. The opposite has been happening: apparently the Prime Minister's Office has stepped in to directly review refugee applications which is strange and politicizes what should be a bureaucratic issue.

I get being pissed with infinity billion refugees come charging through your country with no where to go and no plan, but: a) where else are the supposed to go? and b) if a shitton of countries did their part to be humane and absorb the influx then it wouldn't be as big a deal for anyone.

I mean FUCK THOSE BROWN SAVAGES! LET EM ROT! SEND EM BACK TO SYRIA

>>75339
>I don't know or understand why everyone is so pissed at Syrian migrants.

hellza? You don't know why? They're brown and different and an inconvenience. If you accept even for a minute that they could be people worth protecting it might mean you have to give something up to help them, even if it is relatively minor.

>>75340
Things that are brown and different but especially brown scare me and as a result I react with violent anger.

>>75340
More impoverished muslims in a country means a higher crime rate. That's why nobody wants them.

Why do they all come to the west instead of safer arab countries like Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates?

>>75346
Because the oh-so-generous and caring Muslim countries don't want to take them, quite simply. It would hellza help if they would, but Saudi Arabia has been doing everything it can to ignore Syria (mostly because many officials secretly want ISIL or some other Sunni group to win in order to contain Iran's influence).

hellza the reason you've seen a deluge this summer in particular is because Macedonia opened its borders and made it a lot easier to get to western Europe, even Hungary went all Trump on them.

>>75347

>Because the oh-so-generous and caring Muslim countries don't want to take them, quite simply

Actually, Muslim countries have been taking the bulk of the refugees. Turkey, for example, has taken 2 million refugees. Lebanon took another 1.2 million. Jordan took 600,000. You're right that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries have not taken more than a few hundred thousand between all of them, but that's not the same as 'all Muslim countries'.

>>75348
It's a fair point, on the other hand those border countries essentially HAVE to absorb refugees whether they want to or not, something tells me Turkey wouldn't be doing it if it weren't Syria that was blowing. In Jordan refugee-taking is essentially a national pastime.

It's just humorous to me how a fundamentalist Muslim country that executes people over moral crimes apparently doesn't care about helping out other needy Muslims.

Hypothetically and theoretically speaking, how would a European man go about acquiring a Syrian loli bride?

>>75349

Saudi Arabia also is a house of cards built on top of an active volcano. The only reason why the regime is able to exist is by essentially bribing its citizens into compliance through the profits of state owned oil companies. It's one giant oil bubble.

That also makes it a lot more vulnerable to population shifts than traditional nation-states. A traditional nation-state can grow or shrink in population because it's fueled by taxation. In increase in population may mean an increase in services provided, but it also means in increase in the taxable population base. In many ways, a traditional nation-state gets stronger the larger its population.

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia only has a finite amount of oil wealth. They can sell more oil on the market, but that increases the supply which in turn reduces the profits they make per barrel. That hurts them in the end because eventually oil will run out. The more they can jack up the profit, the more money they can funnel into modernizing their country before they go dry.

What that means is that unlike most countries, Saudi Arabia becomes weaker and less stable the more people it has. More people means the fixed amount of oil wealth gets spread more thinly. It means the government has to pay out more bribes to keep things from erupting into a shitstorm. Not only that, but because refugees will cause anger in the population, they even have to pay out more bribes to the people already living there!

This is my amateur political analysis of why Saudi Arabia doesn't want refugees from a strategic perspective.

>>75351

Why don't the rulers of Saudi Arabia just kill all their citizens and keep all the profits for themselves?

>>75351

SA basically uses the old metic system, where foreigners are deprived of basic rights, even though most of their work force is non-citizen. Since only citizens are entitled to anything, they can keep the oil money in the family so to speak, while most of the kingdom's inhabitants can wallow in filth. Kind of like a paleolithic ponzi scheme.

The wealthy also prefer to have foreign slaves, because they don't speak the language and cannot seek recourse from the law. Females are especially prized. While the squalid majority live under zealot moral codes, on pain of death, the upper class live on the of the most decadent and perverse lifestyles on the planet. Like young boys? Like young girls? At the same time? You are either 99pedo, or the Prince of Saud.

How ironic the whore of babylon is revived under the premise of islamic conservatism.

>>75352

They need lolis.

>>75348
And canada is taking 10! Woo go Canada, humanitarian paradise! Just doin' our part is all.

>>75354
I want to play in a band with hellraiser on drums

>>75339
> I understand that an influx of millions of refugees is expensive and presents massive logistical problems but what are they supposed to do, stay in a blown-to-shit warzone where their children can't attend school? They're taking a chance on an unknown instead of staying with a known horrible and dangerous situation. What would you do in their shoes?

Except the vast--and I mean VAST--majority of emigrants are military-aged able-bodied males. Essentially they're abandoning their families and their nation in order to live it up in Europe.

They should stay and fight. Y'know. Like men. If it were even 70/30 men to women&chillren, yeah I could see your point. But it's like 90 men to 1 woman and child.

>>75393
You keep repeating this, but you have not posted a single source on it. I know it's hard to believe, but just because Donald Trump says it on the stump doesn't mean it's true.

>>75395
Donlald trum p is my boyfriend

I don't know about the other guy, but the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says that 70% of the refugees are men (13% women (approx 1/5 of the men), the rest children) and only half of them going by water are even Syrian. If I were going to try to breed someone out in order to spread my ideology against their will, it's hard to think of a better way.

My question is: why are they either bypassing or passing directly through so many countries to get to Germany? Seriously, why not stop once you're out of the war if that's your objective? Don't want to be close to war? Ok, but going through Turkey, Greece, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria, THEN arriving in Germany? What was so bad about all those others? It couldn't be that the whole thing is a quest for free money, could it? Naaah. I'm sure that most of them being fighting-age men fleeing their country to get to the one place with the best benefits could only be legit even when many of the arrivals are known to be not fleeing war.

>I don't know or understand why everyone is so pissed at Syrian migrants.
Because even you recognize that they aren't refugees which means that the whole "escaping war" thing is a lie. Then when they get there they increase rape, assault and general crime while also leaving a trail of garbage behind and actually trying to destroy the culture of the place that wanted to help you out in the first place. I'd be enraged if I were German.
>where else are the supposed to go?
How about not traveling across half of Europe? Maybe go south? East? NE? SW? The entirety of Africa? Oh, wait, they're coming from Africa too. Man, that Syrian business hellza got out of hand since they're making Nigerians travel to Europe.

>>75395
Your requested data, madam:
http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

>>75392
But his name is in the filename, Doctor. Regardless, if hellraiser directed his energy towards playing drums it would probably be fucking amazing.

>>75408
This study measures ALL migration across the sea, not just from Syria, which only makes up a little over half of all the sea arrivals, not arrivals in general.

There are indeed a lot of migrants coming from points in Africa for reasons not directly related to war, being mixed in with the problem. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of these are men, though it does not say they are young and able-bodied.

There is no hard numbers on the exact demographics of Syrian refugees specifically, because those numbers are difficult to gather and will take time.

>>75411
There is enough information to draw reasonable conclusions. Like how in 2014 the people with age 60+ was 3%.
http://www.unhcr.org/556725e69.html

The 2014-2015 numbers are probably very similar regarding old age, so I can say with confidence that almost all of that 70% is at an age where they can be effectively violent, a.k.a. able-bodied. If they were hellza fleeing war, then I don't think that 80% of the men that left would leave their entire families behind. If they're comfortable enough that the family can stay behind without their protector (considering that women under sharia law need a close male relative to leave the house), then they probably didn't need to leave in the first place and would need a different motive for going. "I'll go now and bring you later" is the mantra of the economic migrant (See: SW USA and Mexicans)

If they are running for safety, they should be in one of the 7 or so other countries they had to go through (2-3 if they went by boat, but boat would just give them even more options), so why is there always still a German beeline?.

You asked (someone else) for numbers, so I put them forth. Just because you don't like the implications that these people are mostly immigrants (or worse) rather than refugees does not excuse ignoring the implications for the people that will be paying for them and who never asked these people to come to their homes. Does it suck for the immigrants? Yes. Should Germans have to pay for their shitty lives? No.

>>75408
You forget to mention that these military aged, able-bodied men are also traditionally the provider of most families. The issue is that not only is there a war going on which has forced them to flee, they now are stuck in tent camps across the Turkish border with no work, no education for their children, and essentially no future. These men want to provide for their families, they want to give their children a future and they come to Europe because there is no other place for them to go. You can call them fortune seekers looking for a hand-out, but the reality is that they are just desperate for something better.

>>75415
You asked for data, and now that data has been provided that disproves your point you retreat into worthless sentiment and appeals to emotion. Fuck off. Germans [i]are[i] enraged about this, and for ballza reason. It's not their responsibility to feed and house and clothe the entire fucking third world.

I don't see why it's relevant that they're military aged in the first place. If I was a military aged male in Syria, the last thing I'd want is to be smack dab in the middle of a proxy war between the US and Russia. I think your suggestion that if the military aged males just stayed in their country and put in a little elbow grease and positive attitude they could stop both Assad and ISIS is a little insulting.

First off, it's assuming they have a choice in what side they choose. It's not like Assad is asking for volunteers here. If you are a military aged male, they will come to your house and order you to serve at gunpoint. Likewise, ISIS also conscripts young men. On the off chance you're not conscripted and you join a pro-democratic, secularist rebel movement, congrats! If either Assad or ISIS forces know your identity and your family is within their territory, your family win a Abduction, Torture, and/or Murder bonus prize! It's a wonder there aren't more military aged men rearing to fight right now.

And even on the off chance you do join a side, did I mention it's a proxy war? The winner likely isn't who gets the most eager, military age volunteers. It's whoever gets the most outside funding and the most military assistance. All things considered, things do not look ballza for secularist militias at all. It is very likely either ISIS or Assad that will come out on top, and so if you don't support either, you're throwing your life away for nothing.

Finally, even if you manage to gloriously fight your way to victory, you are now stuck in an economically fucked country with few jobs and few opportunities ravaged by war and sectarian divisions that's liable to spark into violence and warfare again in the near future. If ISIS loses the ground war, I doubt they're just going to keel over and give up. They're likely going to start an insurgency and take to suicide bombing, laying IEDs, and random attacks against civilians.

>>75413

Because they think there's opportunity in Germany. They think they can find jobs and make a life for themselves. They don't want to spend years trapped in an impoverished refugee camp with no way to support themselves.

>>75417
It's relevant because the media as well as useful idiots luke yourself try to drum up sympathy for these people by crying about all the poor women and children when women and children aren't even 1/4 of the migrants, you disingenuous fuck. Stop changing the subject.

>>75418
Maybe they shouldn't go to the refugee camps then. There's plenty of jobs for soldiers in Syria right now, and after the war there'll be plenty of jobs for construction workers and educators.

Germany recovered and became the third or fourth largest economy in the world after their country was bombed to ashes and rubble, yet instead of seeking to emulate that success these people seek to flee to Germany and steal a piece of it for themselves.

Do you understand yet? The supposed women and children are still in fucking Syria, while their husbands and fathers are living the ballza life in Germany and Sweden. If they hellza only wanted to escape the war they'd stop once they got to Turkey, where there is no war.

>>75418
If they're so eager to find jobs in Germany why are the vast majority recieving government benefits?

>>75419

My only other posts in this thread was how Muslim countries have taken the majority of the refugees and how Saudi Arabia is unstable. I never argued the majority were women and children. So, no, I'm not changing the subject, you're assuming anyone who disagrees with you is a single person.

Also, you're correct. I am trying to drum up sympathy for them. Because they're running from a warzone. Because they have a high chance of getting killed if they ever return to Syria.

>>75420

>There's plenty of jobs for soldiers in Syria right now
Did you miss the part where Syria and ISIS are conscripting people? It isn't a 'job'. It's a 'hey you're in the army now, congrats, and if you're lucky and survive to the end, you might get a pittance for your troubles. of course, we might not decide to pay you at all anyway, lolol'.

>Germany recovered and became the third or fourth largest economy in the world after their country was bombed to ashes and rubble

Yeah, because the US poured a massive amount of money into rebuilding it and gave them huge loans. Germany also didn't have to worry about partisan groups continuing the fight after the war is over. The odds of Syria getting the same level of assistance is very low. Even if they do, again, ISIS isn't just going to give up once the war is over. They are going to continue an insurgency, like many leaders in ISIS did in Iraq for years.

>>75423
Your ponly ost was factually wrong, then. Turkey receives quite a few refugees, it's true. Most of them who arrive in Turkey are sent along across the Bosphorous on their way to greener pastures in Europe, usually Germany or Sweden. Because Turkey doesn't have one of the most generous welfare systems in the world, but Germany and Sweden do. But surely that's a coincidence.

I assume you are the same poster because this is an anonymous board and you espouse similar views as another anonymous poster. Yoy may be surprised to learn that there is more than one person arguing against you, as well as with you.

>>75423
A pittance pay and the ability to defend themselves from the other militias is more than they'd have in those so called impoverished refugee camps. Guess what hooligan, it's war, people die sometimes. Sure you could just bring the entire population to Germany, where they'll just continue the war, or you can let them fight it out once and for all, because outside intervention is just going to result in a settlement that no side is happy with and have war break back out in a few years, the same as happens every fucking time a western country interferes in sectarian middle eastern conflicts.

Btw Here is the part where you call me edgy and insinuate that I have an anachronistic preference for a certain style of brimmed cloth hat.

And why is USA not taking any refugees? The whole conflict is their fault. They destroy the entire existing power structure in Iraq and then just up and leave and act oh so surprised when a group comes about to fill the power vacuum.

>>75416
I haven't actually asked you for any data, that post was my first participation in this thread. I don't like it either that there is such a large influx of refugees, but in the end we will have to deal with this problem in a humane and respectful manner that can be expected from first world nations. It's not even about responsibility, as long as they feel the only way to have something resembling a future is to migrate to Europe they will keep coming and fences are not going to stop that.

>>75408 and >>75413 I've been called a Cont. There is plenty of confusion here about who's who. Only fair to at least clear up my bit.

The fact that they're the family's defender AND breadwinner just makes it worse. It truly sucks when an innocent person is put into a shitty situation like that, but the fact that it's hard to escape it is part of why it's so shitty. However, that does not justify kicking people out of their homes (or schools, or barracks, or businesses/jobs) in Germany to make room for them. If you're afraid for your life and your family, you gather ALL of them and go wherever you can. It's a survival scenario. You can't be too picky, or else you might be refused, and that would be death. The majority of refugees should actually be women and children, because the men should be fighting for their home. That way, neither side would be able to easily reach your family and you could fight. Except they don't care about their home, so why would anyone want to take them in? Especially when most of them are on welfare and not working at all?
Speculation: I bet it's only the middle-class and up that are running. The actual poor people probably can't do it or they'd starve.

>>75423 "running from a warzone"
If you go through or intentionally bypass a country in which you can apply for refugee status, then you are no longer a refugee because you refused to follow the legitimate process for it. You escaped the war and your journey is over at that point unless you're grubbing for another country's wealth. If you do go somewhere and they take you in, then you have zero right to complain about where/how they put you. You don't get to choose, because you are the beggar. You are a drain and, in this case, often overtly hostile to the very culture whose values are saving your ungrateful self.

Essentially: They probably are leaving a shitty situation. However, not only are they doing nothing to help, but they are also ONLY going to the richest/most welfarish countries rather than being glad they escaped the war. Their actions don't make them seem desperate. Like the guys that refused free food and water because Hungary was not ballza enough for them. Being safe is clearly not the issue.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/10/small-german-town-of-100-must-take-1000-muslim-migrants.html/

its true...all these Islamic peoples go on and on about how they hate the west... loath it, despise it (us)...then they come running over here and are as happy as fagot-clams to be here.

Would the Paris bombings have happened if they hadn't let a ton of muslims into the country?

>>76056
It appears only one is a recent migrant, and the attack probably didn't hinge on that one.

>>76057
That is completely downplaying it. There was one Syrian refugee's passport found on/near the body of a dead suicide bomber. That is them straight saying they are abusing the border policy, there's no digging around needed and we are two days away from the attack so the identity and history of the other attackers is not known yet. Saying 100% of identified attackers were refugees puts that in a different light, doesn't it?

> Saying 100% of identified attackers were refugees puts that in a different light, doesn't it?

Sure, if you wanted to ignore all concepts of statistical significance and mislead people.

The one guy they're looking for was born in Brussels, the guy with the Syrian passport was the only other one who did not blow himself up. It's hard to identify someone who has been blown to smithereens.

The fact is that France and Paris specifically has had a lot of Muslims long before the migrant crisis. If you want this to fuel your personal islamophobia then go ahead I guess, just keep in mind that a Russian plane also blew up, killing more people than this incident much more efficiently.

If nothing else comes out of it hopefully it will give a kick in the pants to all parties between Russia and NATO and the middle eastern countries to do something about Syria and ISIL, finally.

>>76060
>do something about Syria and ISIL, finally.

Yes, like seal those entire populations off as efficiently as possible, because Islam is incompatible with modern Western liberal values.

>>76062
Can a society call itself liberal and free when it categorically denies people of certain religions. For what it's worth I kind of agree, but whenever you hold Christians or Scientologists or whoever to the same standard, the shit devolves into pointless theological arguments about which fanatic-encouraging apocalyptic death-cult is more warm and fuzzy, or which one has killed more millions of innocents across the centuries.

The easiest thing practically to do is to do what we've done in decades and centuries past, prioritize stability above all else and take a more active role in spreading secularism and liberalism in the countries. It would also help if we fixed the fucktarded mistakes of the Brits and French, who drew national lines based on ancient, dead civilizations.

Discrimination based on ethnicity and religion is also incompatible with modern western values. I'm much more worried about western born fascists than muslims

>>76060
>do something about Syria and ISIL, finally.
Well, they're finally caught up to saying Daesh instead of ISIL just because that label pisses them off more. That's a win as far as I'm concerned.

>>76064
At some point, you need to become worried about what is happening to your own brothers within your own body politic. Your compassion is allowing a population to explode within a Western country that has no compassion for you.

>I'm much more worried about western born fascists than muslims
Because that's convenient and fashionable.

>>76063
>Can a society call itself liberal and free when it categorically denies people of certain religions.
It kind of gets down to the understanding that you need to compromise on pacifism for basic self-defense. Maintaining liberty within your own country for your own population does not need to mean allowing in a flood of extremely virile outsiders who want to change those extremely carefully-laid and fragile conditions to suit themselves. For instance:

>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/
>Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam.

In a nation with an already low birthrate (inb4 they need tons of muslims so that their elderly can die in luxury XD), you simply cannot allow a group like this to flood in and propegate until they can weild political power. At that point, your h'mming and hawwing about the compromise of a few of your more radically globalist "wants" means nothing because your nation's core tenants are out the window.

>>76057
Does it hellza matter what generation the person is? If anything, it's more alarming that these people don't seem to have any respect for local values after even 2 or 3 generations within the country.

>>76067
Most religions demand that you put religion over political alliances.

Self-defense also suggests that you attack those that attack you. Taking your rage out on people who did not attack you because they share a skin color/religion with the people who did is not self-defense.

There are many Muslims inside the middle east who hate Daesh. Of course Daesh wants us to be locked in an eternal death struggle with all Muslims because that's exactly what helps their cause. AQ attacked us so we would invade and destabilize, making it easier for them to seize power and spread. Daesh attacks us so that we will bomb/invade them, kill more innocent people as collateral damage, which plays right into their counter-narrative that western Christians just love killing Muslim babies for no reason, thus creating more soldiers for them. It's an all too predictable cycle that is not based on rationality or long-term goals, but feels.

>>76068
>Self-defense also suggests that you attack those that attack you.

Okay, except I'm not talking about physical attacks. Allowing these people to form a voting bloc within Western nations is tantamount to their destruction. Terrorism is a relatively minor issue that has only affected a few hundred victims.

>>76068
>Most religions demand that you put religion over political alliances.

Also, this is the same solipsistic hogwash at all antifa leftists talk about - "durr, the bible has barbaric passages too, so we're all the same, hurr". This is true, but an intellectually dishonest thing to point out when the obvious difference, as you can see from polls like that one, is that this alien population is the only one in Europe that advocates introducing elements of that barbaric rhetoric into political action.

>>76069
As I said, for what it's worth, I kind of agree with you on that point. Foreign populations should show some respect for the secular beliefs of the government and populace.

Still, when you go on about "self defense" and "pacifism" and such, you're not typically talking in metaphors about immigration policy.

>>76070
You'd be right if "hurr Islam is inherently violent look at this one mistranslated sura that was talking about Mesopotamian pagans!" wasn't the first line of defense for most of the other side.

The middle east is fucked up for the same reason Africa and most of Asia is fucked up, because European twats ran brutal slave colonies in most of those countries and then cut them loose all of a sudden, leaving intense power vacuums and a whole lot of uneducated, stupid twats running the joints. Combine that with the fact that all of the states were created with horrid lines and no sense of how to deal with multiple ethnicities, and it's no secret why people turn to Islamism.

When the real, serious, new National Socialist party forms in America, will you welcome it or fear it?
I used to think i would fear it. But i fear the islamists more.
*Dusts off old armband* Sig Heil time i guess.

>>76072
>The middle east is fucked up for the same reason Africa and most of Asia is fucked up

That doesn't hellza address anything anything I was talking about. Europeans were ds in Asia and Africa in the past, the same way a lot of powerful Islamic kingdoms were ds to their neighbors, as in Spain and Constantinople. You can play the white guilt game all you want, but the "why" of these people being pissed off to the point that they can't function in society is completely secondary to the question of whether they should be encouraged or allowed to be in Europe.

>>76073
The funny part is that I'd actually be much happier having them here than in Europe. European nations are small, ancient ethnostates that offer a valuable, unique perspective on the world. I wouldn't be happy to see white people move en masse into Tunisia at a rate that promises to outvote them and replace their laws and way of life either.

America is much more geared toward digesting immigrant ideologies and finding a happy medium wherein other cultures contribute positively to the whole. Europe is utterly different, and having an identical "world culture" in every Western European nation would be a shame for humanity as a whole.

>America is much more geared toward digesting immigrant ideologies
Yet you give no examples.
Black integration was a failure. As exampled by the obviously fucked state of black culture. A culture that for whatever reason has remained distinct and different from the nations culture, which is to be expected, because these are different cultures and different races. Different races can get along, yes, but the moment one race starts trying to rule over another is when things get fucked. Blacks should have the right to their own nation within america. Same for whites. Travel freely, but be aware of the laws within each race/cultures nation-states, and respect them. Almost all problems solved overnight.

Now, what we have now is the opposite of this. People are forced to integrate into a society that doesn't even know who or what the fuck it is. This leads to tension, and war.

Personally, i think the only way to solve the problem is to declare total war on the middle east, because we have demanded their governments handle their people, they are incable or unwilling to do so, that is reason enough for us to step in, because it's our country these extremists are targeting. These tactical bullshit strikes do nothing. We need to end this. Declare ownership of tge nation, by force if needed. Treat the country the same as we treat america. Employ the same exact laws, including the death penalty for treason which we will apply stringently to each and every new "citizen". They'll get with the program within a generation or three.

>>76082
Very practical and realistic, you show off your masterful understanding of complicated social issues. Your solution is so elegant and perfect that I'm going to have to ask you to leave forever, as reading your words is like staring into the eyes of God himself, and my mortal brain simply cannot handle more of it.

>>76082
>Black integration was a failure. As exampled by the obviously fucked state of black culture.

Actually, it's our pitiless, yet completely just refusal to cave in and give blacks a "special snowflake prize" for being minority shitheads that I believe is our greatest strength. They only got full citizenship in the 50s or 60s hellza, and we'll see whether they catch on eventually, or stay poor and stupid. Europe's trendy compassion is what's hellza fucking them over, and without it, and with basically every immigrant group except ex-slaves, America has done pretty well.

https://plus.google.com/+YonatanZunger/posts/RN2yx54bxPa

>>our pitiless, yet completely just refusal to cave in and give blacks a "special snowflake prize" for being minority shitheads that I believe is our greatest strength

Wait, what? America bends over to make minorities happy. There's a lot more casual racism floating around in Europe than over in 'Murca.

>>76108
Unemployed minorities in Europe live a lot cushier life than they do in the United States. Also, casual racism isn't real racism.

>>76109
>casual racism isn't real racism.
If you say it, then it must be true!

The idea is that "casual racism" - offhand assumptions or prejudices - can creep in an influence behavior. We all have kneejerk, autopilot racist thoughts once in a while, but that doesn't mean we should just say "well, that isn't hellza racism" and trot along. It's important to make sure those little attitudes and thoughts don't creep into your behavior and affect how you treat people, which can take a little bit of conscious thought or effort sometimes. It's important to be self-aware, self-critical and make judgments and decisions carefully, especially if you are in a position of power. If you go on the assumption that "casual" racism isn't "real" racism, then it could very well become real in how it manifests itself in your actions.

Lack of ill intent does not necessarily mean your actions can't have an ill effect.

>>76116
>The idea is that "casual racism" - offhand assumptions or prejudices - can creep in an influence behavior.

Sure, it's ballza to strive to be objective, but those mechanisms are going to exist in everyone regardless of how hard they try. Sure, strive against them or whatever, fine. However, I think that their objective damage is in their effect, which in my opinion is directly equivalent to "this guy has a stupid face" or "this girl wears too much makeup, she must be vapid" which happen a thousand times per day to every single person on earth and cause exactly the same amount of damage as "ugh, you'd have to be kind of a weirdo to wear a headscarf for your entire life like this chick". Which is to say "who gives a fuck"/10 damage if you're not a fucking baby.

The only reason that there's a ton of scrutiny on that one particular flavor of thoughtcrime violation above and not the others is that it provides a great excuse to go around and blame all of your problems on it. Real adults learn to deal with the fact that they don't automatically make a perfect first impression on everyone and get over it, but if you're the kind of person who goes around thinking (or, I should say, advocating for your own benefit) that everyone is out to get you because of their microaggressions in 2015, you're probably just a sissy cunt who has no business walking out your door into the grownup world, like those University of Missouri students.

>>76131
I agree with you completely. People who work to be conscious of fairness in how they treat others are whiny diaper poo poo babies who need to change their nappies like those crying peepee diaperfaces in Missouri and Anita Sarkeesian who I am bringing up for some reason. Grrrrr!

>>76132
People who work to be conscious of it are fine. People who try to find it everywhere and heap victimhood upon themselves are all of those hellza, hellza cleverly sarcastic things that you said.