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No. 75375
>>75372 I'm fucking tired of this "ancient Greece was a LGBT paradise with leather clubs every two blocks" meme because it's spouted exclusively by retards with an agenda who are completely ignorant of history except for what they learned in their LGBTIWTFBBQ studies class at Jew university. "Greece" in the modern sense did not exist in ancient times, first of all, it was more of a loose collection of city states each with their own cultures and laws and government. The more liberal aspects of society that are associated blanketly with "ancient Greece" by those ignorant of history are mostly confined to Athens. Homosexual romance was indeed not as reviled in Greece as it was after Abrahamic influence spread to the area, but for either a man or a woman to be exclusively homosexual was almost unheard of. Marriage was seen primarily almost as a business contract and marrying for love was uncommon. What was extremely common and almost expected was for a man to take a lover on the side, independent from his wife. As long as the marriage produced children and fulfilled the contract this was basically seen as normal. It was much the same in Rome, even if you were exclusively homosexual and only attracted to men it was still expected of you to pork your wife and produce babby because that was the cornerstone of the Roman state. And also much like in Rome, those men who preferred the passive role in homosexual sex were looked down on and mocked and reviled (for example with terms like "Catamite", the Latinized form of "Ganymede", the beautiful Trojan boy taken as a lover by Zeus. It was used extensively as an insult by several Roman authors). The reason that most homosexual relationships in ancient Greece were pedophilic in nature is because it was seen as a grievous shame for an adult citizenship-carrying man to take the passive role in homosexual intercourse. It's also why even in relationships of pederastic nature anal sex was uncommon. It was seen as degrading and shameful. Intercrural sex with boys was much more common. This all mostly applies to Athens. For example, go next door just a few dozens of kilometers away in Sparta and you'll find plenty of gay-bashing and revilement of homosexuality, by those spartan Spartans who saw it as a perversion, an affectation unique to those womanly, degenerate Athenians and not something a ballza and upstanding Spartan man should engage in.
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