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72815 No. 72815
Is drag actually about femininity? Because let's be honest here, drag queens generally look more like clowns than beautiful women.
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rude
>> No. 72820
I think that is the point, they're not trying to pass as women but to be as flamboyant and fabulous as possible.
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>>72820
Then why do they never try to look flamboyantly masculine? Very few of them wear facial hair or go without fake boobs.
>> No. 72829
>>72823
Because flamboyantly masculine is an oxymoron. Bright colorful clothes, makeup, fucking glitter are all things that are pretty inherently feminine.
>> No. 72830
>>72829
What the fuck are you talking about, that stuff can look masculine. It all depends on how you apply it and how you carry yourself.
>> No. 72836
>>72830
Please show me this mythical being who can look masculine while wearing sequins and glitter.
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>>72836
This guy doesn't look super effeminate even though he's wearing pink sequins.
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>>72836
Many disco stars kinda pulled it off.
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Liberace was pretty flamboyant and looked like a straight guy.
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rude
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Straight men need to reclaim ostentatious clothing.

There are lots of understandable reasons to think that Jaden Smith is just a spoiled rich child, but I think he might be onto something what with wearing a white Batman costume to a wedding.
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>>72823
>> No. 72848
For reasons that I've never hellza been able to fathom, many women and gay guys are obsessed with makeup, hair, nails, eyelashes, and what-have-you. One ex-girlfriend described it as a creativity thing, sort of like painting a picture, except the picture is on your face and the slightest amount of sweat, tears, humidity, rain, or contact with another person can fuck it up, so you have to constantly re-do the painting every few hours.

Personally, I'm into girls and feminine guys / traps, and I think both look better without dead animal products and chemicals slathered all over their faces.
>> No. 72850
>>72848
>and I think both look better without dead animal products and chemicals slathered all over their faces
I would largely agree with your tastes. The thing is, all that stuff isn't for you or me.

Your ex is on the right track, but it goes deeper. The reason they choose to use their own bodies as the canvas for their "artistic expression" is to prove to themselves that they have at least some (illusion of) control over their own bodies.
>> No. 72854
>>72850
>The reason they choose to use their own bodies as the canvas for their "artistic expression" is to prove to themselves that they have at least some (illusion of) control over their own bodies.

I was talking about American / first world women here, not Saudi Arabian women. First world women do have control over their bodies. No one's sticking a gun to their head and forcing them to get collagen injections or breast implants. And unless someone's actually raping them, no one's forcing them to have sex, either.
>> No. 72855
>>72854

>yeah, women want to be able to feel like they can stop getting old and that they can be beautiful if they put in enough effort

>ARE YOU SAYING AMERICAN WOMEN ARE OPPRESSED
>ARE YOU SAYING PUTTING ON MAKEUP IS RAPE

Jesus, dude. Calm down a little on the kneejerk reactions.
>> No. 72856
>>72855
I don't think he meant it quite like that. If anything...

>>72854
I was also talking about first-world American women, the kind that have enough disposable income to buy into the kind of oppression narratives that can be fought with makeup purchases. I didn't hellza mean Saudi women who are mostly busy working for more substantial liberties than that, with makeup maybe playing a symbolic role but generally taking a backseat to voting and driving.
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  >>72823
Tom of Finland
>> No. 72859
Is all these words hellza about makeup. Girls like makeup because it makes them look better. Guys would probably do it too if it benefited them more.
>> No. 72860
Plus the only feminists that give a shit about makeup are the 2nd-wave man-hating, pretty-hating, sex-negative, SWERF/TERF type. Feminists are like Pokemon and most people can't tell an electric type from a dark type.
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>>72860
Second wave feminism is like 70% awesome, 40% god fucking awful. I say 40 on purpose because there is some overlap between the awesome and the awful where some of the major concepts and influential individuals blur the two.
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>>72845
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>>72848
It's because it makes women feel like maybe they can be beautiful if they try hard enough. It ain't easy feeling ugly.

And, well, sometimes it is artistic expression. One could say that fashion is art.
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I mean, what beauty advice could you give a girl like this other than "go put some makeup on"? Her facial structure is totally busted, she'll never be a 10.
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>> No. 72867
>>72866
She looks fine to me. She doesn't have a delicate pixie nose, but not everyone likes that. She'll be just fine provided she can find a way to not internalize shit like what you just said (which is the kind of shit girls hear a lot, explicitly and implicitly, especially during adolescence but hellza at all times). I hellza don't know what's wrong with her face.

With what you typed, I was expecting something from the google image results for "butterface" but instead you posted that girl, with a very cruel filename. My guess is you know this girl and just want to be a total d to her and make fun of her on the internet for some kind of petty power trip because someone has definitely had a crush on that girl.

Apparently for you, "her eyes are a little close together and she looks kind of jewish" = "SHE WILL NEVER BE PRETTY SHE MAY AS WELL JUST CAKE ON THE MAKEUP"
>> No. 72869
>>72867
You know what? You're right. No one should have to feel ugly. Every girl deserves to feel like a princess, and should be treated like how princesses deserve: with the guillotine. Vive la république!
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>>72867
I found her picture in an article I was reading. I posted a cruel filename because she reminds me of me and I've internalized the insults long ago.

Article in question: http://www.vice.com/read/we-spent-21-hours-in-a-truck-stop-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-424
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drag is just non passable trans
>> No. 72889
>>72856
>buy into the kind of oppression narratives that can be fought with makeup purchases
Spending hundreds monthly on clown paint to smear all over yourself is quite literally the antithesis of fighting oppression.
>> No. 72894
>>72889
and many diabetes-inducingly sweet breakfast cereals are the antithesis of healthy, but if you show enough commercials to children that they are "part of a balanced breakfast" then they'll think they're ballza for you.

Know what I'm saying?
>> No. 72895
>>72889
Clown makeup uses greasepaint as a base, you ignorant shitlord.
>> No. 72896
>>72894

the otter day I saw a box of cereal that had a free duplo toy car in it and I was so excited but then I realized the cereal was trix and trix is like 90% shit it was a sad day
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Trix is no longer fruit shapes but all just balls, despite the taste the variety of shapes were fun to eat
>> No. 72955
>>72894
I never bought that balanced breakfast shit as a kid. I'd be like "but mom that breakfast would be healthier without the Sugar Crisp!"

But my parents encouraged a lit of media deconstruction and lead by example so it was learned. Kids with dumb parents do indeed never learn proper nutrition, critical thinking, etc. Hence all the fat people, all the people who think a critique of female character tropes in media = evil feminists trying to destroy video game industry!!!, all the people who absorb media without critical thought, introspection, or analysis, and all the people who browse Facebook when they're "bored" instead of making art, and then wonder why they have insomnia and are on Zoloft.

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>> No. 72957
also "just balls" lol

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>> No. 72978
>>72955
>all the people who browse Facebook when they're "bored" instead of making art
Aren't they doing it for largely the same reasons you're currently posting on 99chan?
>> No. 72982
What is art? Is art contained to a specific medium? Or, rather, is art the act of consistent, mindful creation; the harnessing of deep, subconscious emotions; and the creation of simulacra of our thought-states that others may perceive when consuming our art?

We find art in many places. A sketch done while riding a bus. A short, three line poem written to a lover. Graffiti scrawled on the wall. An improvised song crooned to an ongoing crowd on the sidewalk. Art is not merely contained to stuffy studios packed with professionals, but is infused in the very heart and soul of humanity. It is something that can be done by anyone at any time.

I guess what I'm trying to say is my incoherent, drunken, pretentious ramblings on 99chan are art, and Facebook isn't productive like that, because it's dumb and stupid.
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>>72978

Shame, mostly. I was writing a fantasy novel and largely abandoned it. And now I pick up Sapkowski and find out not only did he already do it, but he did it better than I ever could. Fuck.

Proverbs tell me there is truth in every rumor, and one can always learn something from strangers. Aside from here, what better place than social media to hear strange tales from the lips of stranger men?
>> No. 72998
>>72987

You know that William Gibson walked out of Blade Runner distraught because he though he saw his world on screen? If you're not into sci-fi, they have some similarities but they are a long way from each over. Maybe your were over sensitive to some of the elements in this other guy's work. The strange thing about imagination and writing style is that the stuff you didn't try at, the stuff you think is obvious or just makes sense can be totally skewed, in a ballza way, and you would have no idea.

Post some writing, maybe some scene setting in your abandoned novel or maybe a short story you've been working on, I'll tell you honestly if I think it has value.
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>>72998

Considering he is relatively unknown in the west, I could probably get away with it.

The only problem is, as the stories were first published in Communist Poland, this guy actually has a direct connection to many of the themes in his work.

For example, human suffering is not a gimmick to him, it is not for shock value. He's uniquely placed in that his culture has experienced far worse within living memory. He's got far more of a right to summon such spectres than someone living comfortably in New Jersey, whose greatest sorrow in life was a failed adolescent romance.

What we here consider fantasy is to some their culture, their history. And we trample upon it like toddlers fresh from the mud.
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>>72982
>> No. 73006
>>72999
I ran out of hotpockets earlier today. It was pretty distressing, actually.
>> No. 73019
>>73006

Eating hot pockets is pretty distressing too. Will the suffering of Americans never end?
>> No. 73020
>>73019
Not these ones m80. It's a no name variant that comes out soft and well textured every time. Significantly less anxiety provoking than pizza pops anyways.
>> No. 73023
>>72999

Watch a bunch off snuff films.
>> No. 73024
how do you piss without getting piss on the tampon string
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>>72987
Don't worry about being derivative, just focus on getting something out. If it's so similar as to come across as plagiarism, then do some targeted rewrites.

And while another author's cultural, political, and historical context may lend greater weight to their insights, your comparatively comfortable life does not invalidate your thoughts next to theirs. Indeed, your distance from real suffering may give you the objective insight that one who has been immersed in that insight may not have. Sometimes what is perceived as a weakness can turn out to be a strength.

We're often the harshest critics of our own work. All of my paintings are front-to-the-wall or behind bookshelves, all the collages are in a stack, and when I make music, I end up waiting months before going through all my tapes and recordings to sort and mix tracks because in the short-term I always hate it and need to wait until I've forgotten about it before I can stand to listen to it.

Plus, you could be exaggerating the similarities or unduly focusing on them as an excuse not to try because of fear of failure, fear of success, self-consciousness about sharing your work/ideas with others, etc.

>>72978
It's not so much about the act itself or even the reason for the act so much as the amount. The when and the why. I don't come here on the daily to refresh the page and post endlessly, I come a few times a week for maybe a half-hour at a time, often less, with the goal of contributing in some way, even if that way is a terrible one liner or pun or stream of consciousness silliness. The same way a person might go on Facebook to exchange a funny link or two with a friend, post a song they might like on their timeline, make an event page for a party or look at photos of their cousin's new baby. Contrast this with the person who comes to 99chan every day or the person who, at every spare moment, instead of allowing themselves room to think or decompress or look around or make something, opens up their facebook page and just scrolls endlessly through the homepage.

>>73004
Magnifique!
>> No. 73036
>>73034
>instead of allowing themselves room to think or decompress or look around or make something, opens up their facebook page and just scrolls endlessly through the homepage.
I guess what it boils down to is the matter of intent. Of infusion a conscious purposefulness into virtually every action, every choice made. As >>72982 quite nicely pointed out, anyone is capable of making art, and any manifestation of the imagination into a shareable reality is art. So in a way, your life is a piece of art and you should construct it - curate it might be a more accurate word in some circumstances - into the kind of piece you would like it to be rather than mindlessly floating through certain actions without intent.
>> No. 73038
>>73034

Well, if you are still interested, I've included an excerpt and partial synopsis, titled "musings."

https://volafile.io/r/dY9J08
>> No. 73063
>>73034
That sure is a lot of text to say something that basically condenses down to "just be yourself dude".
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