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72451 No. 72451
I know this would make more sense in /money/, but it's quite slow over there.

I've finally gotten the self confidence to start publishing the mountain of erotic stories I've written and I want to do well as far as sales go. I've sold one book thus far and had a bunch of downloads through one of the Kdp loan programs, but I didn't do any advertising so that's not bad imo.

Advertising options on amazon seem overly expensive, as do the options on other sites that offer 'promotion' for a book (400$ to put my book in your newsletter? No thanks.), so I want to find other ways of getting my name and more importantly my books, out there.
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>> No. 72452
Your book looks boring and generic. You should have written something about slutty dinosaurs or something like that
>> No. 72454
Hmm, I see what you mean. That's what I get for using the cover creator through Amazon. I'm not saying that I think the book itself is boring or generic, but I can indeed see how you would assume such. Would you be interested in reading it and critiquing it?
>> No. 72455
>>72454
You should probably ask opinion from people you know are into whatever kind of niche or whatever that you're peddling. If you don't have a niche then you might want to think about getting one, ese.
>> No. 72456
Are you a jew
>> No. 72457
Maybe if you hit enough forums where people discuss this, or even miscellaneous topics, you can subtly advertise for it under the guise of asking questions about it's production.




Wait a minu
>> No. 72461
Write better. Make your cover better. Also, your title seems weird. Is this about fucking your nasty wife or her nasty kid?

But for real, chances are, most of your books aren't going to sell, and if you suck at writing, they definitely won't sell. However, if you are actually pretty ballza, it's still hard to get noticed, simply because the mass of people writing wincest stories online for free. So, your best bet it to just keep publishing and seeing if one of them sticks. If you have mountains of these stories lying around, it shouldn't be too hard right?
>> No. 72475
i'll give it a read. i have lots of experience reading e-lit
>> No. 72478
7chan has a pretty active /elit/ board, if you post some ballza samples there and mention that it's part of a book you might get some more customers.
>> No. 72507
>silverman

OP is a jew
>> No. 72509
>>72507
A Jew peddling degenerate smut, what else is new?
>> No. 72515
OP, do the characters in your book have circumsized foreskins
>> No. 72520
how do you write elit on a jewish keyboard though?
>> No. 72528
>>72507
Nope, black.
>> No. 72529
>>72528
Bullshit. Then your name would be blackman, not silverman.
>> No. 72533
Who is the target audience for this? Older men who are of an age to remarry someone with offspring who are old enough to fuck? Where would you find guys like that? Golf forums with an active off-topic board? Private sex parties or swingers' clubs? Local bars?

The broader point is that whoever the target audience is, try to push the book at them from where they are.
>> No. 72534
>>72515
The easiest trick is to leave that particular detail out so the reader can project whatever kind of d they want onto their fantasy man.
>> No. 72537
>>72529
If he were a jew, though, shouldn't its name be Goldman?
>> No. 72539
>>72529
Dohoho, you are just too clever. I actually made that one up by taking my initials and a color like, then playing with them.

>>72457
This is the last place I'd try to advertise my work, unless I was writing stuff for gay alcoholic Canadians. I could do one about mombjguy though, that'd be pretty funny. I'd work in all the stuff from over the years too somehow...dammit, I'm going to end up doing that I think.

>>72533
The target for THAT story is mostly men, but I still suck at writing for a specific group of people rather than a client or myself or a girl I meet online. That's the big thing I'm trying to learn now, that and doing better covers, I had no idea how important the covers were.

I refuse to go forum spamming for advertising though, I've sold a few of books (literally) between amazon and smashwords, but this is the first month and my first attempt, so I'm ecstatic that anyone even paid money for my work thus far, I don't have anything to measure my talent by, but I know I'm a better writer than the landwhale that did 50 shades, so I have no excuse.
>> No. 72549
>>72539
>I refuse to go forum spamming for advertising though
While this may not exactly be a forum, it damn sure looks like spamming
>bullshit it's not like I ever linked to it
That picture is enough. You hoped someone would be curious enough to reverse image search it or merely look up the title and author.

I'm not necessarily criticizing you sharing with us, but I am criticizing lying to yourself.
>> No. 72550
>>72549
I can understand what you're saying, but here, of all places, is the LAST place I'd come to get anything but thoughts and some ribbing, not sales. I suppose I could have used a different picture, but I couldn't be arsed. I've actually been having way more success with smashwords than kindle, so I'm quite content to keep learning and seeing what happens. I had some other people tell me that name sounded jewish, I can't change at this point though.
>> No. 72553
>>72550
>[...]here, of all places, is the LAST place I'd come to get anything[...]
Well, I am offended now.
>> No. 72562
>>72550
and again, I'm not even complaining about you sharing with us.

If anything I would have respected you more if you were all "yeah I don't give a shit I'll promote my erotic fiction on /b/ while asking for advice how to sell it even better. At least it beats the suckers at /elit/ doing it for free." Of course, it's too late for that now.
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72571
>>72528
>>72539
>P.L. Silverman

PrincipaL (Onyx) Blackman?
>> No. 72592
>>72553
Hey now, you're taking that out of context, I love this site!

>>72562
I feel you, I don't like the elit section here anymore though (lola is cool though), and yeah, I'm done with doing it for free, so posting there would just miss my point. I have enough experience with this place to know that you just can't do any kind of promotion on here for stuff like this though.
>> No. 72613
Reddit has some erotic literature oriented subs. Some have explicit rules against advertising or selling, but some (I think there's one called sexsells) are specifically aimed at people selling online sexual services (webcam performers, authors of erotica, clips4sale store producers, etc).

Get involved in a community like that. Don't just spam though, cultivate a presence. You're marketing your work, you need to create a consistent brand and put in some heavy lifting to cultivate a fan/buyer base. Once you are established in those communities, offer community-specific discounts (a coupon code you only post on that particular forum or subreddit for example) to create a feeling of connection, specialness, exclusivity, and give back a bit to the community that is providing an outlet for your work. Look at how camgirls market themselves. A lot of the women posting on reddit subs like /gonewild/ are camgirls; they spend a lot of time sharing bits of free content (ie, nudity). There's a woman who posts gifs on a breast expansion sub who has a porn site that caters to those kinds of fetishes.

I would recommend, if you're a small-scale DIY purveyor, to find a niche. Look at the most successful Clips4Sale stores and see what they sell. Mark's Head Bobbers and Hand Jobbers is big and he does lotso of ruined orgasms, edging, etc.... much different than the roided out blowbangs with fake moaning you see coming out of the San Fernando Valley even though he works with a lot of mainstream porn girls. SexySaffron always pops up in reddit porn boards, whether it's cumshot boards or breast expansion to share free gifs and occasionally link back to her website. A lot of successful small-scale porn caters to fetishes and content you won't see on Brazzers or PornPros: ball-busting, femdom, breast expansion, ruined orgasms, edging, JOI... There are a million porn girls out at someone's finger tips so why would I pay for X or Y Girl's clips4sale clips? Because she's offering something that is difficult or impossible to find elsewhere. It may not be as polished and professional as Elegant Angel content but: a) it doesn't matter because it's unique content that EA doesn't offer; and b) that amateur feel can be part of the charm, make it more "real".

I would also like to echo the suggestion for better covers. But it's not so much the design of the cover as the title. That is just a messy mouthful. You might as well call it Taming a Naughty New Bride Part One-B of 10: Reconnoitering With My Promiscuous But Legal High School Senior Step-Daughter and Maybe One Of Her Friends for all the words you got crammed in there. You need something snappy.

You spoke in a derogatory fashion about the woman who wrote 50 Shades but here's the thing: she got a book published that sold millions of copies and was made into a movie and you're asking 99chan for tips on selling your incest erotica. Obviously she got something right that you are missing. Obviously her book had the marketing power of a publishing house behind it and you're going DIY, but what she still had to do something those publishers knew was sellable, something that would click with a lot of people. First of all, I think her book is the perfect mix of edgy and safe, and it does a great job - like most ballza erotica - of tapping into neurosis and repressed fantasies. But it's also got a snappy set of titles. There's wordplay in the first one, then the next few are snappy variations of that title: 50 Shades of Grey, 50 Shades Darker, 50 Shades Free or whatever they are (not bothering to google because you get the point).

As far as what your title implies, I think you've got it backwards: why would I want to read about some guy taming his wicked wife? I want to hear him helping his tame wife break free and become wicked. The slutty step-daughter could work, but the word "meeting" makes me think no sex will happen here and the book will have no payoff. "It's just part one where he meets her? I want some climax, I want some action, not a meeting!"

Why would anyone buy a "Part 1" where two characters "meet" from an unknown amateur author? This just makes me think there's not going to be enough action. Give people a small, all-encompassing package. Make the title let them know it is entirely self-contained. Make it short but with enough content and story that it is worth paying for.

So think about that title. Make it snappy.
Think about that content. Make it resonate with something buried, something cultural and personal, some kind of zeitgeist, even if it's a small or niche one.
Find a subculture or niche or fetish that you can cater to. Not necessarily exclusively (follow your creative heart, obviously, don't do something hollow just to sell books) but to some degree cater to a specific audience. Step-daughter semi-incest is way to generic, way to common, way too available for free. If you're going to go such a generic route, you need to add some kind of obvious gimmick (My Wife & My Master: Ball Busted By My Slutty Step-Daughter would probably sell better than Taming A Wicked Wife: Meeting My Slutty Step-Daughter)
Embed and ingratiate yourself with some communities and offer community specific discounts and free content.
Look to successful porn entrepreneurs like camgirls, clips4sale producers, and other erotica authors and see how they market themselves. Cultivate a cult fanbase.
>> No. 72710
>>72613
Crickey, thanks! I agree that the title is bland, I know the covers need work too. Also,I don't just do one kind of erotica, but maybe I should move towards a couple of niches. Thanks a ton for the advice ballza sir.
>> No. 72752
>>72710
you're welcome. I think about this kind of thing a lot. Not erotica necessarily, but marketing DIY art or small businesses.
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