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69844 No. 69844
Could the story of the Garden of Eden represent a memory of our hunter-gatherer past when food was plentiful?

When the climate changed and food became scarcer people turned to agriculture out of desperation and this could be represented in the story as our expulsion from Eden.
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>> No. 69845
No
>> No. 69846
  This is now a cp thread.
>> No. 69847
It's the only bit in the OT that makes any sense whatsoever. Other than the part where the elephant sat on some man.
>> No. 69848
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Man ate all the dinosaurs because they were too lazy to farm and raise cattle so God punished them by flooding the whole earth saving only Noah and his family because they had mad gardening skills and would be ballza stewards of the earth. It's in the bible.
>> No. 69849
The paradise legend I don't think is supposed to directly reference any point in history real or imagined, I think it's just early civilized folk fantasizing about how awesome things were at some time. Think about how some people today romanticize the 50s, and we're starting to see the same thing with 80s and even 90s. The various myths involving Adam and Eve and The Garden of Eden are likely just restructuring of a broad story.

I think we often underestimate the allegorical sensitivity and abilities of ancient civilized man, but I don't think this is that so much.
>> No. 69850
I think the story of the Garden of Eden is about the moment we stopped being animals and started being humans.
>> No. 69859
The fruit of knowledge is drugs
>> No. 69866
The oldest stories are always true. I think it is indicative of a high technology society that destroyed itself either with advanced weaponry or overpopulation. We are living in the broken shadow of a civilization that self-destructed.
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Even if the story is true, i find that satan is enlightening them with knowledge of ballza and evil. Although...what would it be like if you didnt have knowledge of ballza and evil? Would you just unwittingly do something heinously evil and just be happy? What if you didnt know it was wrong to cut your d off? What would adam and eve been like? Emotionless...meaningless...this adam and eve story doesnt fly. Right and wrong governs human thought. Either they were some crazy fucks or its a lie.
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>>69895
The Bible's intent was to portray them like animals, go around and eating and rutting and generally not giving a shit but not having to because it was plentiful. It was meant to symbolize the point where humans went from an animalistic state and dumb and carefree to a burdened, thinking, sentient race with conscious problems.

Portrayals of two pretty white people on vacation were more just excuses to draw nude people during times when you needed a ballza excuse to do that.
>> No. 69901
Whatever. Christians should read the bible more and realize how stupid it is. If god is real, then he is nothing more than a lying murderer. On the other hand, satan seems to be the demon lord of hades, highly respected and feared by jews and christians. Why is the new movie "lazarus" scary to some? Because christians are taught that demons are out there to slap the shit out of them. In subjectable reality, demons have many different purposes, including educating, guarding, empowering, and even fucking humans. I dont know what is goin down in tha wurld dees dayz but mayn...i choose shaitan
>> No. 69904
A few civilizations seem to look to the past with rose colored glasses. I know that the Greeks felt that the history of the earth comprised of 5 ages, and that they were living in the shitty Iron Age. Maybe the people who made these creation stories looked at their squalor and just assumed that things were better in the past.
>> No. 69908
>>69901
If you think of it more from a negative view of humanity it makes sense, people need wisdom just to live without killing themselves or others but they don't want to accept wisdom at face value most of the time, whether you live now or in ancient Judea. So you have to wrap it up in a bunch of bullshit mysticism and cute stories just to get them to swallow.

One can question the actually wisdom it teaches, of course. If you under cook pork it can kill you, so some guy noticed that a lot of idiots died or got really sick due to undercooked pork and instead of trying to explain to them that it's bad, they create some scary motherhooligan in the sky who will kill you if you eat pork, or at least be very mad. If you have tons of sex with a bunch of people, you can get a disease that can kill you or make you insane. So, you're better off just fucking one person your whole life because they didn't have birth control or protection back then. Again, people don't listen so you create a murderous overlord to keep them from doing it. You can say what you want about God, but the fear of him has likely saved countless people. It might have killed a whole lot of people as well, but you can't blame old Abe or Moses for that as much.

Jesus was just a political radical in a time when religion was politics, he hated the corrupt Jewish politicians/political leaders who were selling out their own people to the Romans for cash while still asserting bullshit moral authority.

The middle east was a confusing hodgepodge of differing ideas and ideologies that often caused tensions and problems, people claiming to be prophets for personal gain, even more corruption, etc. and Islam was meant to be the "last word" and definitive ideology, a book from god himself blending elements from all the regional traditions and traditional wisdom of the time.
>> No. 69909
>>69895
That's basically what the Gnostics thought. They believed the God of Abraham was actually Satan in disguise (so they believed all other Christians worshiped Satan because they were dumb). They also thought that the Tree of Knowledge was like uh planted by Sophia, the True God's aspect of wisdom. As you can probably guess, this is why gnosticism wasn't looked upon kindly.
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>> No. 70625
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