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1477 No. 1477
Hi everyone, I'm in a predicament.

Things were going swell until the beginning of march, since I was doing well at uni (even though I'm already 25, had some problems earlier so started later) but then I got screwed over by a fellow student and things started going south fast. Failed two subjects, everything was riding on the third subject (which if I failed would be the end of my uni career), two hours before the exam I heard my mother has cancer. Yadayada, failed the exam, things have been going downhill ever since. Bit of backstory, so you will. Feels purdy bad since that uni was the first time in my life that I felt at home in an educational institution.

Anyway, ever since then my mood has been going downhill as well. I've been diagnosed with clinical depression, generalised anxiety (with extra heavy social anxieties and fear of failure) and other little tidbits in the past, and while I've gotten quite good at getting a grip on my mental state and issues by rigorious training and self-brainwashing, I feel myself slipping away again over the last few days.

Part of this is related to my eating habits. The girlfriend's back to her home country for the week so I'm all alone, which made me go for bad food like I normally do when I feel like shit. However, I'm clear enough to realise that eating this way doesn't change anything and only makes me feel worse, let alone makes me shit water.

Gonna get to the point now: what kind of foods can I eat in order to maintain my mental health? I know that certain types of food are better at giving you an edge against depression, but opinions on it seem to differ. I trust you guys, so if possible, please help me out. I'm in a waiting list for a psychologist so until that time I'll have to do with changing things in my home life as much as I can.

Addendum: I take vitamin and herbal supplements due to a slight hormonal disorder, I have to take extra magnesium anyway to control my nerves, both physical (shaking hands, twitches) and mental (anxiety, panic attacks). I'm also going back to the gym, since I'm a fatty boom boom and working out always made me feel better, but... not quite yet, I still need to adjust to the kicked-out-of-uni fact.

Thanks for reading all that, guys. If you can help me out, that'd be great. Other tips for controlling or managing depression are also welcome, and if you have any questions: feel free to ask and I'll answer if I can.

tl;dr: depressed, eating bad, what food will help?, general tips also welcome, <3
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1480
Hey mate, coincidentally I read something today because of my Research Proposal.



I was reading "Toward a neurobiology of delusions" by Corlett et al. (2010). Download the article and check it yourself.

One of their hypotheses at page 362, is this :

"We have argued that delusions arise and are maintained due to
aberrations of glutamatergic synaptic plasticity, specifically
chronically elevated synaptic glutamate which renders inap-propriate salience and learning that engenders a limit on
metaplasticity. Given its effectiveness against cocaine induced
deficits in metaplasticity (Moussawi et al., 2009), we predict
that N-acetylcysteine should be an effective treatment for
delusions(!)."

I googled the drug and apparently it also helps with bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia and you can buy it for like under 20 quid on your local pharmacy or on the Internet.

It goes without saying that you should do your own research about this.


Other stuff that can help are exercise(weights, cardio, yoga) as well as meditation. I am not talking about praying to Visnu (unless you are into it). Try and be mindful. Google secular meditation and don't buy any books there are tons of free stuff online. Also don't mix different styles of meditation after doing one for a couple of weeks, if you pick one stick with it. Also whatever you do, don't do any Taoistic bollocks where you imagine light orbs and shit. All these diseases (schizophrenia, OCD, clinical depression, ruminative thinking) have high co-morbidity (they, in many cases, occur together). So the last thing we want is you meditating on imaginary healing light orbs...


Here's a bunch of scientific articles about meditation that explain the mechanisms, as well as other stuff, I posted in another chan.

http://www.mediafire.com/?xwj7tn911b6axfy,c2880cez0vmvich,x2fg8x1j6d89d27,nl63ji4zaydpspq,1mbpu7wmnmsarc5,47ao7agke3c655y

A couple of important points :

A) I am NOT a doctor OR a clinical psychologist. I am however a Psychologist with an MSc in Cognitive Neuroscience so although I know stuff, I do not know so much stuff about pharmacology and general clinical applications. Please take everything I say wth a grain of salt. Consult a professional if you truly are not at the subclinical level. Also experiment with the dosages starting extremely low, and google the drug by yourself. Never trust anyone on the Internet.

B) Your uni if you are in the UK has a free line you can call which is called Nightline and it's fully confidential. Give them a call.


C) This is a bro tip with no research whatsoever. Always try and stay between 14 % - 20 % bodyfat. That way if your eating is influenced either way since you are in the middle you will have some leeway if you know what I mean.

D) http://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch Post here if you ever feel bad.



This guy is usually pretty legit about supplements/food so keep an eye on this sight. He says fish oil is good essentially and you can get that either from fish or in capsules.

http://examine.com/topics/Depression/


I will do my own search just in case. Hang in there bro and I am sorry for your mother.
>> No. 1543
>>1480
i did not read it through but this post looks well thought out and helpful.

eating healthy in general will do as much as can be done by changing your diet. avoid heavily processed or artificial foods, junk foods, the like. eat organic, natural food and you'll be fine. try to find a variety of healthy foods you enjoy, this will make it much easier to eat healthy. consider nuts, vegetables, fruits, and alternative preparation of the food (raw, grill, light stir fry vs fried or heavily dressed)

you could also consider trying vegetarianism (there are different degrees, you can try a very liberal version if you're not too keen on it; i.e.- still eat fish, eggs, milk, etc). i tried eating vegetarian for a month and i felt great physically after 2 or 3 weeks.

as >>1480 said, regular exercise will help a lot too (perhaps even more than eating better)

having said all this, don't expect to change your diet and suddenly feel better. depending on how long you've been this way (if you have a history previous to this march) or how prone you are to mental instability it could take a lot in order for you to improve how you feel. you will need to correct yourself mentally, physically, and emotionally to get better. don't try to do it all at once though, or you'll become overwhelmed. baby steps.

as a final note i must say that i don't know much beyond the average joe on health and diet. this is all from my own 19 years of experience, and as >>1480 once again said, take my advice with a grain of salt.

good luck anon.
>> No. 1544
>don't expect to change your diet and suddenly feel better

For me, it's really helpful to think objectively about eating well and exercising. Going for a run or having a salad won't mean my depression lifts right there and then, but I can bank on the fact that; two months of healthy eating and exercising will make me feel a lot better than two months of lazy and junk food.

What I mean to say is that, healthy eating is a basic thing that you can use to empower yourself. It can be an instant cure, but we're looking long term. If I feel down, I think about how I can 'look after myself' by spending time eating well and exercising.

Try to eat regularly and often, small portions, take your time, if possible try to eat in company. Try to eat a range of foods that are interesting, and try to develop some routine or rules to your food. For example, I start every morning with a particular type of porridge with whatever fruits are around, I don't have milk because it upsets me, and porridge keeps me full for a long time. I'm proud that I always have a healthy start to the day, and if I fuck up and get a burger at lunch, I at least started on a good note.

There's some literature about the alkaline diet, which is interesting but I find incredibly complex. Anyway, it seems to be talking about finding a specific diet for you, and finding out what foods make you work better than others. Certainly, generally there's a lot of sugar consumption, which I think is hard for your body. It talks about being able to eat a McDonald's and be able to balance it out (kind of). Generally though, it's pretty standard healthy diet stuff. It might be interesting.
>> No. 1557
cashews... fruit, vegetables...


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